Hey guys!
Putting a 4g/awd conversion into an FTO and would like to know all my options in regards to compatibility etc.
Basically, from my current research i know the following will fit but am unaware at all the differences throughout the evo range that might impact how many parts will be compatible etc.
Evo 5 hubs and brembos will bolt straight up to the FTO subframe cradle/control arms - the FTOAU club president has this conversion already and put up a detailed DIY on it - is the evo 5 brembos specific? or say would an evo 6 kit have identical mounting/bushes etc so i can look for either or?
I need an evo 4 or later engine. I have heard many things and have done plenty of research into the evo 4 engine wondering if i should look for 5 or later due to the dreaded crank walk, but through research have concluded that if built right and mainained properly, this shouldnt be an issue, even with the race application. (in any case, i plan to stroke to 2.3L with an AMS kit down the road anyway) In regards to mating this to a box, how well do the 4-9 boxes/engines go together? I have read that that the clutch and flywheel diameter on the 7-9 is slightly larger than earlier models, and was wondering if this would affect a direct bolt up, or would have to jam an earlier clutch in flywheel in the 7-9 casing if i went down that road? Im thinking the easiest way is to just hold out till i find a 4 engine and box, and mate them to a evo 5 hub (which brings me to my next question) - how will driveshafts play out? Straight fit from 4-5? or will some custom ones needed to be fabbed up? Evo 5 hubs are locked in pretty much so ill have to work around that.
In regards to rear running gear, i have heard an evo 4 rear diff will stitch straight in, and further cements the idea of a complete evo 4 setup (but then this entire thread is asking what is also compatible lol) Are any prop shafts/driveshafts interchangeable?
Finally, i have nfi which rear hubs i intend to use. Im thinking if the evo 5 fronts bolt straight up will the rears be as awesome to put in or will converting FWD to AWD rear hubs/gear be a frustrating problem ill want to throw a hissy fit over?
I am very mechanically minded, and have worked on numerous cars doing everything from clutched to head gaskets and know my way around them fairly well, however when it comes to doing conversion etc im not the sharpest tool in the shed - so please excuse any noobness i may have portrayed here! Apart from the custom fab work i also intend to do most of the work myself to save a few bucks to get this happening sooner. The more that bolts up the better, although at this point im only expecting the donor FTO parts and evo 5 hubs to do this.
I should probably also state what im using out of the FTO here as well in case any one sees a problem and can point it out before i go ahead and waste time and money.
The Subframe cradle, steering rack and column. Dash/cluster. A frankenstein Loom thats half FTO half EVO (will not be touching it myself, but idc whatever the easiest is) - or will simply going a complete aftermarket standalone save a LOT of time and money on this, and would save thousands in the long run?
Strut braces/wiper motor etc etc i will use off the FTO, but this will be completely spartan - so race battery and fuel cell in the boot, completely stripped interior with plexi etc so not many parts are needed.
Sorry for the Essay, i tried condensing it as much as possible so people dont have to write an essay back to answer all the questions if they want to lol
I also understand that i have to donate 5 bucks every 15 days to be eligible to buy/sell stuff here is this correct? I dont want to ask if anyone has any of this gear here for sale if i have to do it properly in other areas of the site!
Cheers in advance for any help anyone will offer. Although i have been on 4 other evo/4g forums so far and not a single word has been said in any threads (or even my welcome thread to be honest) so hopefully this is a more friendlier bunch
Taz
Putting a 4g/awd conversion into an FTO and would like to know all my options in regards to compatibility etc.
Basically, from my current research i know the following will fit but am unaware at all the differences throughout the evo range that might impact how many parts will be compatible etc.
Evo 5 hubs and brembos will bolt straight up to the FTO subframe cradle/control arms - the FTOAU club president has this conversion already and put up a detailed DIY on it - is the evo 5 brembos specific? or say would an evo 6 kit have identical mounting/bushes etc so i can look for either or?
I need an evo 4 or later engine. I have heard many things and have done plenty of research into the evo 4 engine wondering if i should look for 5 or later due to the dreaded crank walk, but through research have concluded that if built right and mainained properly, this shouldnt be an issue, even with the race application. (in any case, i plan to stroke to 2.3L with an AMS kit down the road anyway) In regards to mating this to a box, how well do the 4-9 boxes/engines go together? I have read that that the clutch and flywheel diameter on the 7-9 is slightly larger than earlier models, and was wondering if this would affect a direct bolt up, or would have to jam an earlier clutch in flywheel in the 7-9 casing if i went down that road? Im thinking the easiest way is to just hold out till i find a 4 engine and box, and mate them to a evo 5 hub (which brings me to my next question) - how will driveshafts play out? Straight fit from 4-5? or will some custom ones needed to be fabbed up? Evo 5 hubs are locked in pretty much so ill have to work around that.
In regards to rear running gear, i have heard an evo 4 rear diff will stitch straight in, and further cements the idea of a complete evo 4 setup (but then this entire thread is asking what is also compatible lol) Are any prop shafts/driveshafts interchangeable?
Finally, i have nfi which rear hubs i intend to use. Im thinking if the evo 5 fronts bolt straight up will the rears be as awesome to put in or will converting FWD to AWD rear hubs/gear be a frustrating problem ill want to throw a hissy fit over?
I am very mechanically minded, and have worked on numerous cars doing everything from clutched to head gaskets and know my way around them fairly well, however when it comes to doing conversion etc im not the sharpest tool in the shed - so please excuse any noobness i may have portrayed here! Apart from the custom fab work i also intend to do most of the work myself to save a few bucks to get this happening sooner. The more that bolts up the better, although at this point im only expecting the donor FTO parts and evo 5 hubs to do this.
I should probably also state what im using out of the FTO here as well in case any one sees a problem and can point it out before i go ahead and waste time and money.
The Subframe cradle, steering rack and column. Dash/cluster. A frankenstein Loom thats half FTO half EVO (will not be touching it myself, but idc whatever the easiest is) - or will simply going a complete aftermarket standalone save a LOT of time and money on this, and would save thousands in the long run?
Strut braces/wiper motor etc etc i will use off the FTO, but this will be completely spartan - so race battery and fuel cell in the boot, completely stripped interior with plexi etc so not many parts are needed.
Sorry for the Essay, i tried condensing it as much as possible so people dont have to write an essay back to answer all the questions if they want to lol
I also understand that i have to donate 5 bucks every 15 days to be eligible to buy/sell stuff here is this correct? I dont want to ask if anyone has any of this gear here for sale if i have to do it properly in other areas of the site!
Cheers in advance for any help anyone will offer. Although i have been on 4 other evo/4g forums so far and not a single word has been said in any threads (or even my welcome thread to be honest) so hopefully this is a more friendlier bunch
Taz
