any gym junkies here?
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Dean said:
Correct, but I have been weightlifting on and off for around 8 years and not at any stage have I gone out of my way to increase size & strength with the aid of supplements. Obviously supplements give the body added nutrients needed in order to make quicker gains...and that's great if you want to be a bodybuilder. If not, I beleive that these supplements are totally unnecessary....unless your impatient.
most decent brand name protein suppliments will include all essential amino acids... the building blocks for protein... you must have all essential amino acids in the correct combination for proteins to exist... protein is made up of amino acids (not all of them)... put simply, amino acids are the stuff that you must have for repair and growth of the muscle fibres...
fair game olly isnt trying to become a super human, but a person that is phyisically active, his weight will still require 200g of protein a day to stand any chance of muscle growth... thats a lot of food
imho doing any form of training without the use of a protein suppliment is just like pissing in the wind... but each to their own
fair game olly isnt trying to become a super human, but a person that is phyisically active, his weight will still require 200g of protein a day to stand any chance of muscle growth... thats a lot of food
imho doing any form of training without the use of a protein suppliment is just like pissing in the wind... but each to their own
thirteen
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Too many people think lifting weights is the
'be all and end all' of fitness. Whilst weight training
should be a major factor in a fitness routine, don't
forget the cardio. There's a tanked-up guy at Muay Thai
who's learning how important cardio fitness is
(poor lad has to keep stopping to catch his breath),
but when his cardio gets up-to-scratch he'll be a killing machine.
Protein Calculator:
http://nutrition.mynewbody.com.au/calculators/calculator/protein-calculator
'be all and end all' of fitness. Whilst weight training
should be a major factor in a fitness routine, don't
forget the cardio. There's a tanked-up guy at Muay Thai
who's learning how important cardio fitness is
(poor lad has to keep stopping to catch his breath),
but when his cardio gets up-to-scratch he'll be a killing machine.
Protein Calculator:
http://nutrition.mynewbody.com.au/calculators/calculator/protein-calculator
tUfRiCe
Well-Known Member
ure body type an genes also has alot to do with ure ability for muscle growth im skinny as,wasnt using protein...i was getting alot stronger though then hit a round of protein shakes an put on 5kg's in 8 weeks helped me heaps
thought i'd give an update!
lost around 8kgs so far, from a 38 down to a 34. all i've been doing is jogging and swimming. so far i've been able to jog 6.5km and swim around 1.2km. also entered the run4kids marathon which is on the 30th. it's a 14.4km run! plan to lose around another 3 or 4kg then start doing some weights. anyone have any barbells or dumbells for sale or wanting to sell?
lost around 8kgs so far, from a 38 down to a 34. all i've been doing is jogging and swimming. so far i've been able to jog 6.5km and swim around 1.2km. also entered the run4kids marathon which is on the 30th. it's a 14.4km run! plan to lose around another 3 or 4kg then start doing some weights. anyone have any barbells or dumbells for sale or wanting to sell?
iluszn
Well-Known Member
nope.. ebay..
else. join a gym.. motivate yourself to go.. unlike me, lost motivation temporarily.. To hot.
else. join a gym.. motivate yourself to go.. unlike me, lost motivation temporarily.. To hot.
fradles
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to start off
"high reps low weight" for tone is a myth. theres no such thing as localised fat loss...cardio is the way to cut up... high reps is used for warmups and to indicate when its time for a bigger wieght....or as a pump set for your final set...
if u want to get big, or if u want to tone or be cut you have to start at the same place...because to have tone, u have to have muscle...
alot of training is to do with ure body composition
if u can eat alot and not put on any weight you what is known as an ectomorph...(theres other factors but its a basic veiw) these types generally have trouble puting on mass, but stay cut
in that case eat a farkload of food, high carbs. stick with 6-8 reps 4 sets (+warmup)
if u can eat what you want, but ure not skinny as you may be an mesomorph. theyre the guys everyone hates, cus they put on lean muscle...that is bulk, without the fat
eat wat u want(lots), but healthier the better...you only get out what u put in...
stick with 8-10 reps for most excersizes
if(without cardio) you tend to put on fat...your probably an endomorph. who put on mass easy,but also body fat
go with 10-12 reps for most excersizes...
dont shy away from carbs, you need them for size but generally dont have them after 4-5ish
6 meals a day as suggested is essential...if u have 6 smaller meals your metabolism is always working, as your breaking down food all the time...every two hours is ideal...(NOTE higher muscle proportions mean you body needs to deliver more nutrients to more places...breaks down more food etc...faster metabolism...thats why on the biggest loser the fattiest do weights)
in terms of protein the rule of thumb is 2g-2.5g for every kg you weigh
protein shakes are good to suppliment this...theyre only downside is they can be high in saturated fats, salts...and expensive...advantages are you can get the same amount of protein as two small tins of tuna in a simpler form to consume and which is absorbed faster...
make sure u get a low carb powder, which is either whey concentrate or isolate...(the latter slightly better). if u want speciallist post training suppliment, get something hydrolised...i recommend weigh pro elite...it has the biggest section at gnc for a reason...
if ure just starting to train weights, go with a 3 day split...(same excersizes 3 days pw, day break in between) then after about 8 weeks move to a 2 day split (half groups one day, half the next...day break...and repeat(4 days of gym a week)...then move onto a muscle group or a two a day routine...
thats all i can think of atm...pm me if u want help...c wat i can do...
keep up the good work
oh and ill see you at the run4kids
"high reps low weight" for tone is a myth. theres no such thing as localised fat loss...cardio is the way to cut up... high reps is used for warmups and to indicate when its time for a bigger wieght....or as a pump set for your final set...
if u want to get big, or if u want to tone or be cut you have to start at the same place...because to have tone, u have to have muscle...
alot of training is to do with ure body composition
if u can eat alot and not put on any weight you what is known as an ectomorph...(theres other factors but its a basic veiw) these types generally have trouble puting on mass, but stay cut
in that case eat a farkload of food, high carbs. stick with 6-8 reps 4 sets (+warmup)
if u can eat what you want, but ure not skinny as you may be an mesomorph. theyre the guys everyone hates, cus they put on lean muscle...that is bulk, without the fat
eat wat u want(lots), but healthier the better...you only get out what u put in...
stick with 8-10 reps for most excersizes
if(without cardio) you tend to put on fat...your probably an endomorph. who put on mass easy,but also body fat
go with 10-12 reps for most excersizes...
dont shy away from carbs, you need them for size but generally dont have them after 4-5ish
6 meals a day as suggested is essential...if u have 6 smaller meals your metabolism is always working, as your breaking down food all the time...every two hours is ideal...(NOTE higher muscle proportions mean you body needs to deliver more nutrients to more places...breaks down more food etc...faster metabolism...thats why on the biggest loser the fattiest do weights)
in terms of protein the rule of thumb is 2g-2.5g for every kg you weigh
protein shakes are good to suppliment this...theyre only downside is they can be high in saturated fats, salts...and expensive...advantages are you can get the same amount of protein as two small tins of tuna in a simpler form to consume and which is absorbed faster...
make sure u get a low carb powder, which is either whey concentrate or isolate...(the latter slightly better). if u want speciallist post training suppliment, get something hydrolised...i recommend weigh pro elite...it has the biggest section at gnc for a reason...
if ure just starting to train weights, go with a 3 day split...(same excersizes 3 days pw, day break in between) then after about 8 weeks move to a 2 day split (half groups one day, half the next...day break...and repeat(4 days of gym a week)...then move onto a muscle group or a two a day routine...
thats all i can think of atm...pm me if u want help...c wat i can do...
keep up the good work
oh and ill see you at the run4kids
Dean
Member
fradles said:
lmao,
what u just said is b/s
