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matress

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Hey guys,

To those of you who are running Garrett or Garrett style non-ball bearing turbos, where are you getting your oil feed from?

Are you taking it from the head or from the filter housing?

Are you running an inline oil filter or not?

Have you checked the oil pressure in the line?

Thanks!

Mat :)
 
i said people without ball bearing turbos! :p

people say having too high oil pressure can kill thrust bearings, so i'm wondering that if i switch my feed back to the head and run an inline filter, the oil should be lower pressure and also a bit cleaner due to the filter.

thoughts anyone?

anyone know the recommended oil pressure for a garrett 360 degree thrust bearing centre?

anyone know the average oil pressure from the filter housing with balance shafts still intact vs. the oil pressure from the head?
 
Garrett have that info on their website dude :lol: Read below paragraph. For the record, my BB Garrett will be taking it from the head without a filter (what happens if your filter starts clogging? - it will sort of act like a restrictor and reduce pressure?) and I think my GTBB cartridge has a built in restrictor - looks like it does. I may or may not run a filter yet as undecided and will see what sort of oil pressure the turbo gets before possibly adding an external restrictor (no point in fitting a restrictor if the turbo is already getting recommended pressure).

Does my turbo require an oil restrictor?
Oil requirements depend on the turbo's bearing system type. Garrett has two types of bearing systems; traditional journal bearing; and ball bearing.

The journal bearing system in a turbo functions very similarly to the rod or crank bearings in an engine. These bearings require enough oil pressure to keep the components separated by a hydrodynamic film. If the oil pressure is too low, the metal components will come in contact causing premature wear and ultimately failure. If the oil pressure is too high, leakage may occur from the turbocharger seals. With that as background, an oil restrictor is generally not needed for a journal-bearing turbocharger except for those applications with oil-pressure-induced seal leakage. Remember to address all other potential causes of leakage first (e.g., inadequate/improper oil drain out of the turbocharger, excessive crankcase pressure, turbocharger past its useful service life, etc.) and use a restrictor as a last resort. Garrett distributors can tell you the recommended range of acceptable oil pressures for your particular turbo. Restrictor size will always depend on how much oil pressure your engine is generating-there is no single restrictor size suited for all engines.

Ball-bearing turbochargers can benefit from the addition of an oil restrictor, as most engines deliver more pressure than a ball bearing turbo requires. The benefit is seen in improved boost response due to less windage of oil in the bearing. In addition, lower oil flow further reduces the risk of oil leakage compared to journal-bearing turbochargers. Oil pressure entering a ball-bearing turbocharger needs to be between 40 psi and 45 psi at the maximum engine operating speed. For many common passenger vehicle engines, this generally translates into a restrictor with a minimum of 0.040" diameter orifice upstream of the oil inlet on the turbocharger center section. Again, it is imperative that the restrictor be sized according to the oil pressure characteristics of the engine to which the turbo is attached. Always verify that the appropriate oil pressure is reaching the turbo.

The use of an oil restrictor can (but not always) help ensure that you have the proper oil flow/pressure entering the turbocharger, as well as extract the maximum performance.
 
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