Chipped ECU & stock boost control solenoid queries

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Ok, so got my car dyno'd yesterday and had some rather weird results.
dyno results.jpg dyno results 2.jpg
First of all, as you can see, the car is running stupidly rich and has a weird drop in power (which is at around the 3500 - 4000 rpm mark)
Also the turbo doesn't hit the 18 psi till the end of the run (7k rpm)
now on the road sometimes it will hit the 18psi at around 5k rpm.

I found a u pipe on the cold side of the intercooler that had a short pipe running off it with a rubber stopper on the end that was completely cracked(not sure what this T pipe was for?). Once I replaced that rubber stopper, I found that the dip in power seemed to disappear a bit (haven't redyno'd since). But also found that boost hit 25psi once today, and regularly hit 20psi :blink:
Now my questions are:
1. Is there any way to tell who did the chip? I'm assuming it is chipped as it hits 25psi without a boost cut (and as far as I was aware, there is a 15psi boost cut on standard evo 2 ecu's)
2. Where is the stock boost solenoid located and what does it look like? as on later inspection I noticed that the hose from the wastegate actuator goes strait into a nipple on the post intercooler pipe (i.e. hard pipe that runs from intercooler up to throttlebody). From what i know this means that the wastegate is opening as soon as boost starts (is that right?) and would explain my slow boost response?
3. Since there is no boost controller, how would the turbo be getting up to 25psi & how can I reduce this? (I think I can remember someone years ago mentioning adding washers to a turbo to increase boost)
4. What is the max psi that a standard motor can handle (i'm assuming it is standard and not forged, is there any way to tell???)
5. I also found a turbosmart eboost solenoid in the engine bay that wasn't hooked up to anything, is there anyway to use this instead of the stock mitsu solenoid (if I don't have a stock one)?
 
The dyno guys should have been able to answer all your queries if they are up to speed on diagnosing turbo issues . The principles are the same for the majority of makes and models out there....
 
Ok, so got my car dyno'd yesterday and had some rather weird results.
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First of all, as you can see, the car is running stupidly rich and has a weird drop in power (which is at around the 3500 - 4000 rpm mark)
Also the turbo doesn't hit the 18 psi till the end of the run (7k rpm)
now on the road sometimes it will hit the 18psi at around 5k rpm.

I found a u pipe on the cold side of the intercooler that had a short pipe running off it with a rubber stopper on the end that was completely cracked(not sure what this T pipe was for?). Once I replaced that rubber stopper, I found that the dip in power seemed to disappear a bit (haven't redyno'd since). But also found that boost hit 25psi once today, and regularly hit 20psi :blink:
Now my questions are:
1. Is there any way to tell who did the chip? I'm assuming it is chipped as it hits 25psi without a boost cut (and as far as I was aware, there is a 15psi boost cut on standard evo 2 ecu's)
2. Where is the stock boost solenoid located and what does it look like? as on later inspection I noticed that the hose from the wastegate actuator goes strait into a nipple on the post intercooler pipe (i.e. hard pipe that runs from intercooler up to throttlebody). From what i know this means that the wastegate is opening as soon as boost starts (is that right?) and would explain my slow boost response?
3. Since there is no boost controller, how would the turbo be getting up to 25psi & how can I reduce this? (I think I can remember someone years ago mentioning adding washers to a turbo to increase boost)
4. What is the max psi that a standard motor can handle (i'm assuming it is standard and not forged, is there any way to tell???)
5. I also found a turbosmart eboost solenoid in the engine bay that wasn't hooked up to anything, is there anyway to use this instead of the stock mitsu solenoid (if I don't have a stock one)?

I would assume that either the pipe is blocked or has holes in that is running between the turbo actuator and the intercooler piping or your waste gate actuator is broken.

What you have described is that you car should be running the wastegate boost pressure. I believe it was around 12 psi on my old evo three when I had a similiar setup.

I would resolve this issue prior to worrying about boost solenoids etc.
 
1. I could get 22PSI on my stock ECU no probs (this was on my forged motor).

2. See attached pic for control solenoid.
Should have 2 hoses coming out, it is energised to vent boost pressure away from wastegate to allow boost pressure to rise to predetermined level (12 PSI ish) once this is reached in de energises which allows the boost pressure to feed the wastegate actuator and thus begins to dump Exhaust controlling Turbine speed thus boost level.
The Wastegate is plumbed to the turbo outlet pipe there is a Tee piece that connects to one side of the boost solenoid. the other side of the solenoid goes to the inlet pipe between the AFM and turbo inlet.
See attached pic boost solenoid plumb map.

3. The wastegate is either stuffed or not connected allowing turbo to spool to max.

4. Standard motor boost levels I would'n't push more than 16PSI. The levels you are getting could very likely bend or snap your rods as this is the weak point of the motor.


5. Follow the plumb pic attached, provided the turbosmart eboost solenoid allows air flow when energised. Just electicaly connect it to the existing boost solenoid connector.


Hope this helps
 

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