E85 Fuel locations

[bazeng]

A mate got 20 - 30 kw's from going to E10 (100 ron).

Imagine E85!!!!

Problem is the standards of E85. Anybody know of the quality at the pump?
I'd only get the race fuel stuff for consistency.

 

[trq-str]

I’ve heard E85 eats fuel pumps and lines. Can anyone confirm if this is true

 

[SIVART]

Ive heard E85 eats fuel pumps and lines. Can anyone confirm if this is true

Ive been told it does eat the orings and lines but will take along time to do so

 

[brisvr4]

Ive heard E85 eats fuel pumps and lines. Can anyone confirm if this is true

I've also heard that if you screw your face up and the wind changes that it will stay that way
It's all a load of crap! It only has an effect on cars that have very old fuel systems. I.E say pre 85 here.

 

[SIVART]

I've also heard that if you screw your face up and the wind changes that it will stay that way

thats what I want it to do :thumbsup:

 

[evopwr]

Hmmm OK. So given that the fuel system in mine is completely stock, basically there is no benefit to using it unless I get it retuned. I'd like to try it since it's so much cheaper but I don't want to lunch the engine.

To upgrade to E85 you will need as a minimum:

fuel pump (walbro is fine)
injectors (1000cc)
retune - AFR's, timing and stoich ratios are all different for E85.


Regarding petrol stations mixing 91RON fuel in theiR e85, i've attached a useful stoich conversion tool.

Cheers,
Alex

 

[ocyrion]

To upgrade to E85 you will need as a minimum:

fuel pump (walbro is fine)
injectors (1000cc)
retune - AFR's, timing and stoich ratios are all different for E85.


Regarding petrol stations mixing 91RON fuel in theiR e85, i've attached a useful stoich conversion tool.

Cheers,
Alex

Thanks Alex (good name btw). After what you've said I'll just forget about using it. I'll just keep the car stock I think, and the initial costs are not going to be paid off quickly enough by the cheaper fuel price.

 

[evopwr]

I wouldn't think the main concern for people converting to E85 is fuel economy. Remember that that AFR for E85 is approx 25% less so naturally you will need to use more fuel and hence 'L/100ks' fuel economy would be significantly worse than 98RON fuel.

The huge advantage of e85 is its ability to cool the engine and aid in reducing knock (hence advance timing, more boost, etc).

 

[will]

thought you need 2 fuel pumps?

also run dual maps as a backup?

 

[SIVART]

I had a chat with the highett guys they said 1 older car they had in did kill the fuel pump and all the rubber fuel lines expanded, it was like a VN commo special might have been even a VL, I didnt get into detail about the car to much

but nothing else so far

you can run it in a standard car but to get the real gain you need to tune etc as alex said

 

[JSTYLE]

that is why you replace your 10+ year old fuel rubber lines with teflon coated lines designed for alcohol.... makes sense yer?

Jon

 

[gerzzzzz]

Thanks Alex (good name btw). After what you've said I'll just forget about using it. I'll just keep the car stock I think, and the initial costs are not going to be paid off quickly enough by the cheaper fuel price.

yeh, i have yet to know anyone that getting e85 tune to pay cheaper price for fuel.

it's simply because significant power gains for arguably cheap mods.

- 1000/1050/1200cc injectors $600ish
- fuel pump $150
- teflon lines as mentioned before, but there are heaps heaps people running e85 with stock lines.

so less than $1k for 30ish Kw gain. :thumbsup:

 

[evopwr]

WOW $150 fuel pump? Is this sobe ebay special?? haha

 

[JSTYLE]

WOW $150 fuel pump? Is this sobe ebay special?? haha

thats a walbro
walbros u can get for cheaper then $140 now days..
on e85 they will hold about 280 AW KW.

Jon

 

[evopwr]

Oh yeh true, I bought my walbro so long ago I thought it would cost more than that.

 

[bazeng]

$140 is pretty much trade price!

Expect to pay about $170.00 RRP from most places.

 

[gerzzzzz]

blah, who cares about $30 lol.

 

[Dean]

Does anyone think that all the new Evo owners using E85 on their stock lines will be in for a surprise in say 5 years?

 

[brisvr4]

Does anyone think that all the new Evo owners using E85 on their stock lines will be in for a surprise in say 5 years?

Nope.

 

[JSTYLE]

Nope.

+2

Jon