early 4G63 differences

[GSRSOL]

hey boys

just wondering the differences between early model VR4 engines

1987/88
1989/90/91
Aspec and Jspec
auto and manual

can anynone enlighten me?

 

[bazeng]

off the top of my head:

engine differences inc gearbox

1987/88
basic setup inc.
450cc inj
3.505 gearbox ratio
7.8 compression
tdo5 14b turbo
rs version not sure of specs, but from what i've seen, they still have a 14b, 450cc and a 3.5 ratio.. just light weight body..

1989/90/91
basic setup also
rs versions have a small 16g, 510cc inj, 3.9 diff / box ratio

Aspec and Jspec
aspec uses a single runner inlet manifold
(ECI MULTI)

jspec has the cyclone inlet manifold (twin runners)

auto and manual
auto has the tdo4
manual has the tdo5

 

[GSRSOL]

so then the only difference between an auto and a manual Jspec is bolt on stuff?

ie: no internal differences?

 

[Liberoz]

correct and mostly vr4 auto's are unthrashed and are in very god nick if your looking at buying a frt cut seen 2 auto vr4's and after opening them have been very clean and like 5000 km motors.

 

[BobWrinkle]

1987/88
rs version not sure of specs, but from what i've seen, they still have a 14b, 450cc and a 3.5 ratio.. just light weight body..

1989/90/91
rs versions have a small 16g, 510cc inj, 3.9 diff / box ratio

Ok how do you tell if its a 88 or 89 RS?
It was regoed as 89 but we all know that MEs just make it up as they go along. It is a E - E38A SNPF 4. Can someone tell me what the number son the turbo are if it was a small 16g?

 

[CLuTZ]

Ok how do you tell if its a 88 or 89 RS?
It was regoed as 89 but we all know that MEs just make it up as they go along. It is a E - E38A SNPF 4. Can someone tell me what the number son the turbo are if it was a small 16g?[/quote]

You can tell if they have a vented bonnet or not.

1989 was the year that the facelifts were introduced, some were facelifts, some werent.

 

[BobWrinkle]

You can tell if they have a vented bonnet or not.

1989 was the year that the facelifts were introduced, some were facelifts, some werent.

Mine doesn't have the vented bonnet :'( (Just remembered my bonnet doesn't match, so theres a chance it came with a facelift originally )But i thought my intercooler looked bigger then the standard ones.

If i took it off and took a photo of it could u tell me if it was the same or not?

 

[bazeng]

oh and also
monte carlos (i consider them rs's with luxury stuff) came with bigger t/b elbow and intercooler piping / intercooler

as for the early rs, yes they dont have bonnet vents and also no 4bolt...
they still have a/c i believe.. but do have wind up windows.. they also have the old school lights at the rear..

as for the later rs's, i've never seen one in real life..

 

[CLuTZ]

You can tell if they have a vented bonnet or not.

1989 was the year that the facelifts were introduced, some were facelifts, some werent.

Mine doesn't have the vented bonnet :'( (Just remembered my bonnet doesn't match, so theres a chance it came with a facelift originally )But i thought my intercooler looked bigger then the standard ones.

If i took it off and took a photo of it could u tell me if it was the same or not?

photo of what? what is it you want to find out?

facelifts also have different spotlights

and different tail lights

theres a whole lot of differences, but i believe this is a 4G63 thread, so we're going way off topic

perhaps we should start a new thread?

 

[VR-4-PLAY]

just post ur chassis number and we can tell you exactly what model it is

 

[GSRSOL]

ill only have an engine number.........

 

[BobWrinkle]

E - E38A SNPF 4

I am pretty sure i have a 4 bolt Diff, and my intercooler is bigger then this one
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VR4-Intercoo...606930308QQcategoryZ10400QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mine is longer, and the pipes go out of the sides at the bottom.

I have pics of the lights front and back but cant attach. But they look exactly the same as Dres' car sept much dirtier :'(

 

[tharaka]

E - E38A SNPF 4

I am pretty sure i have a 4 bolt Diff, and my intercooler is bigger then this one
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VR4-Intercoo...606930308QQcategoryZ10400QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Mine is longer, and the pipes go out of the sides at the bottom.

I have pics of the lights front and back but cant attach. But they look exactly the same as Dres' car sept much dirtier :'(

That's an A-Spec intercooler

dre has an evo 6 intercooler on his car

 

[CLuTZ]

E - E38A SNPF 4

E38a is RS. Whats the numbers after the E38a? If its E38A-002XXXX then its most likely a facelift.

Why dont you email me the pics and i'll upload them for you.

clutsta at gmale dot com

 

[Entaran]

it's gmail not gmale

 

[CLuTZ]

it's gmail not gmale

yeah and its @ not at, . not dot

I'm sure he knows? Surely?

 

[BobWrinkle]

lol
thanks for the vote of confidence bro.

 

[BobWrinkle]

E38A-0001393
...
Its a ****** 88 isnt it :'(

 

[GSRSOL]

so back on topic :lol:

if i got the engine number would you guys be able to tell what year car it has come from?

 

[Entaran]

late 87

and yes.