Front and Rear LSDs

4GTuner

Help Support 4GTuner:

guys while were on the subject of lsd's , fitting a front evo lsd gearbox to a gsr do i need to change the rear diff to suit the front?
And is finding a gsr lsd....
like finding a needle in a hay stack :lol:
Thanks Grant.
 
guys while were on the subject of lsd's , fitting a front evo lsd gearbox to a gsr do i need to change the rear diff to suit the front?
And is finding a gsr lsd....
like finding a needle in a hay stack :lol:
Thanks Grant.

Yes you'll need an Evo3.909:1 rear diff. Evo I RS or any Evo II/III would be the best option.
 
What EVO gearbox are you fitting?
If EVO III gearbox it requires its own EVO III transfer case and any of the EVO I-III rear diffs to be OK.
If an EVO I/II gearbox you can use the GSR/EVO I/II transfer case and any of the EVO I-III rear diffs will be OK.

Yes, a GSR front viscous LSD is much harder to find than an EVO front viscous LSD. But, its not so much the viscous LSD itself that is hard to find, its the GSR 58 tooth viscous 'crownwheel' that's difficult. Any open diff front crownwheels can fit onto an open diff or mechanical LSD, but you specifically need a viscous crownheel to bolt to a viscous LSD.

There are all sorts of options you can do to make your desired setup. The first thing to determine is whether you want to run GSR, EVO or some other front and rear diff ratios.
 
you can run a evo lsd diff center in a gsr diff. does require a little machining but nothing crazy expensive. ask 3zercrowd for details.
 
Too true ^^^ . I put an EVO rear mech LSD centre into a GSR rear diff using GSR crownwheel and pinion. Bolts straight in but put it in the shop to set tooth alignment and backlash + fit new bearings for me ;)
 
Thanks for the info guys, at least i know what i'm in for :eek:
as my car is used more for track work, which of the two rear diffs would be best ?
and how much would EVO I/II lsd box and rear diff set me back :(
Thanks Grant.
 
Ok guys just found a EVO III rs rear lsd on ebay , now.......
can i fit this diff (just the center) in the housing of my diff (1.8 gsr)
using the crownwheel and pinion as rob has said?
any other parts needed, will it work with my standard gear box.
Thanks Grant
 
Ok guys just found a EVO III rs rear lsd on ebay , now.......
can i fit this diff (just the center) in the housing of my diff (1.8 gsr)
using the crownwheel and pinion as rob has said?
any other parts needed, will it work with my standard gear box.
Thanks Grant

Sure can mate, got that in the rally car. Give it a bit of preload for some fun.
 
Ok, just got a reply back from the guy with the lsd rear diff
he said it's a viscous unit
so is this the same as fitting the mechanical one and are viscous, better/worse/the same as mechanical
Thanks Grant.
 
Ok, just got a reply back from the guy with the lsd rear diff
he said it's a viscous unit
so is this the same as fitting the mechanical one and are viscous, better/worse/the same as mechanical
Thanks Grant.

Not the same from memory, 1 drive shaft is different for a start. Just go for a mechanical unit. I know of one for sale if your interested, About $1000. I payed $200 to get my centres swapped and preloads set.
 
Grant, all Evo I-III rear diffs are mechanical LSD except for the Evo I GSR which had the viscous rear LSD.

Here's the rundown on what to do depending on what ratios you want to run with.

Keeping the GSR Lancer 3.545 rear diff ratio
If you're going to keep your GSR gearbox, then yes, put an Evo mechanical LSD centre into a GSR rear diff housing. Go to a gearbox and diff shop, hand over your complete GSR diff housing and the EVO mech LSD, and ask them to put the LSD centre into it for you and to set the tooth alignment and backlash and also to fit new bearings and seals if required. Should cost a couple hundred bux maximum. The existing GSR crownwheel and pinion inside the housing determines the GSR 3.545 rear diff ratio, not the Evo LSD. Once done = rear diff is now GSR ratio with a mech LSD B)

Gearbox options using GSR front diff ratio to suit the above rear diff
a ) Keep your existing GSR open front diff gearbox and transfer case as they are. It'll be fine to use with the diff as per described above.
b ) Keep your existing GSR open front diff gearbox and transfer case but fit an aftermarket mech LSD front diff (Kaaz, Ralliart, Cusco, whatever) in it using your existing GSR front diff crownwheel and pinion (C&P).
c ) Get any EVO I-III viscous LSD gearbox, remove the Evo's front LSD C&P and fit a GSR 58-tooth viscous LSD C&P onto the EVO's viscous LSD centre. Big Problem: GSR 58 tooth front viscous LSD crownwheels are rare to find! I have only ever come across one of them and its in my garage waiting to be fitted to an EVO viscous LSD centre! :lol:
d ) Get a non LSD EVO gearbox, buy an aftermarket mechanical LSD (Kaaz, Ralliart, Cusco whatever), then fit a non LSD normal GSR 58-tooth C&P onto the aftermarket mech LSD and chuck it into the EVO box. Basically nearly all GSR boxes are open diff so you can take their C&P off and fit them to any W5M33 aftermarket mech LSD. You will however require 8 x new MD952231 LSD bolts as they are longer than normal open diff bolts. The extra length of the bolts is to go through the thread of both the LSD cover and LSD body (important!). The end result will be EVO gearbox with aftermarket front mech LSD and a GSR front diff ratio... to suit your new rear diff :)

Alternatively, if you want to go with the full EVO 3.909 rear diff ratio, get EVO running gear:
Buy an EVO I-II gearbox with front viscous LSD and ensure you get a driver's side LSD CV cup with it! Very important. It's different to a normal CV cup.
Use your existing GSR transfer case or get an EVO I-II transfer case.
Use a complete rear EVO I-III mech rear LSD diff centre and housing.
Note: If using an EVO III gearbox ensure you get the matching EVO III transfer case! They are a matched pair to suit the EVO rear diffs.

Hope this helps.
PS: Dont stress, it upsets the penguins ;)

smile-andwave.jpg
 
Should add demon tweeks in the uk have the front and rear kaaz centres available for about 630pounds. Pretty sure that is an ok price. That's where my front diff will be coming from anyway.
 

Latest posts

Back
Top