lancerevo92
nOOb to the EVO
can anyone describe or direct me to a manual of how to remove the front drive shafts? I have play in on my driver's side, so i need to remove them to see what the problem is. (do i need special tools?)
How to remove front drive shafts?
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Remember to remove the split pin and SLIGHTLY loosen the large 32mm (I think its 32mm) driveshaft nut inside your wheel centrecap first! Thats the only special tool you really need because most people dont usually have a large socket that size. It's easier to loosen it a little when you have a wheel without centrecaps when the wheel is on the ground to stop it from spinning. If not, jack the car up, remove the wheel, get a mate to sit in the drivers seat with his foot on the brakes, remove the split pin, undo the big nut fully, grab a screwdriver and pull apart and fully loosen the clip that holds the CV boot closest to he gearbox in (might be a cable tie on some cars), then pull the boot off the CV cup. I leave the cup still in so I dont have any leakage. If there have been collapsed bearings I fully remove the cup, or clean all the grease out of it first before installing the new driveshaft and cv grease.
Velocity Racing
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yeh its an easy job, once the hub nuts are done.. on the RHS (drivers side. remove the hub nut, then get under the car, (the higher you can get it on stands etc the better.. you can get a flat edge screwdriver or a chisel between the cup and the side of the gearbox and slowly but firmly tap the tool upwards so as to seperate the cup for the box, when the pressure gets enough it will just pop... then undo the hub from the strut + swaybar if its attached to the strut.. pull the hub down and slide the splines on the shaft out the back of the hub..
LHS is easy as.. undo the hub nut, undo the two bolds that bolt the shaft to the back of the block (12 or 14mm i forget) then once thats done undo the hub from the strut as per the other side and slide the shaft out of the hub..
sound easy ?
takes a bit if swearing first time.. but if you persist its easy & quick..
LHS is easy as.. undo the hub nut, undo the two bolds that bolt the shaft to the back of the block (12 or 14mm i forget) then once thats done undo the hub from the strut as per the other side and slide the shaft out of the hub..
sound easy ?
takes a bit if swearing first time.. but if you persist its easy & quick..
Velocity Racing
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yeh 8mm would about do it, ive got a special tool thats perfect for it..
the jimmy bar works too, just some times you need to be a bit vicious with it.. i just find that a few taps with a hammer is heaps easier and far safer when your laying under the car
the jimmy bar works too, just some times you need to be a bit vicious with it.. i just find that a few taps with a hammer is heaps easier and far safer when your laying under the car
Yeah me too mate, I leave the cup still in place and clean it out so as not to spill oil from the gearbox. The less amount of times you remove the cup from the gearbox the better condition your seals will be in, and we all hate leaking oil seals there! :lol: Then at least you can inspect the bearings and throw in some new grease when you put the replacement CV back in :wink:
GSR70Y
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to4garret said:
Ditto, Less mess, less fuss and no risk of damaging the cup or yourself with that pesky screwdriver.
Either way, the job get's done..
to4garret said:the steel ties that go on a CV boot are 30c and a fuck load easier to install
plus a tub of greese is about $15 for good shit and gearbox oil is about $35.
im sure we can manage :lol:
I dunno but I think this is a shit way of doing it, I had to replace the inner drive shaft boots as they had split open, I manged to not do up the clamps tight enough and now there is grease spewing out everywhere and I have to do it again. I had enough trouble putting the clamp on tight off the car (and I still fucked it up) and being where it is I think it would be VERY hard to get the drivers side clamp on right on the car, so NOT easy to install! What is easy is before you start get a clean ice cream container or simelar, drain your gearbox oil, shit it may even need changing, then do your drive shafts, and put the same gearbox oil back in, a big syringe from a chemist is like $1.50 and will take you less than 5 mins to put the oil back in, much less messy than mucking around with driveshaft grease! A good reef with a prybar gets drive shafts put with no probs when you know how to do it!
thats alright, you can think its the shit way of doing it.
i just do it so often its the easiest way for me, instead of spending a 10 minutes draining my good gearbox oil and a few extra minutes pulling the cups out, i spend 30 seconds chopping the band off and yonk the shaft and CV out.
in saying that though, if you had not changed the oil in your box, then you probably need to change your boots as well, just as preventive maintenance. so its still worth pulling from the boots, if not to save the shaft seal some possible trauma.
if a cup comes out easy then the clip on it has probably worn a bit, i.e. the cup has been removed a few times.
i've never had a cup that comes off easy, but that maybe because all my boxes are virgins and i have a pet hate of undoing things that dont need to be undone to do the same job. i'd much rather waste a boot tie than replace a spline clip or gearbox seal.
tried to change a spline clip before? not a 30 second job.
and if your fucking up doing the CV boot tie's, you dont know how to do them right. you can do them with a screw driver and pliers, its a pain but there is a knack to it. otherwise, just do the smart thing and get the right tool for the job and buy one of these.
http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_CAT265_pg13.htm
it cost me $7 from the local drive shaft shop, perfect every time.
anyway, thats how and why i do it the way i do, and why i recommend it vs pulling the CV cup out.
i just do it so often its the easiest way for me, instead of spending a 10 minutes draining my good gearbox oil and a few extra minutes pulling the cups out, i spend 30 seconds chopping the band off and yonk the shaft and CV out.
in saying that though, if you had not changed the oil in your box, then you probably need to change your boots as well, just as preventive maintenance. so its still worth pulling from the boots, if not to save the shaft seal some possible trauma.
if a cup comes out easy then the clip on it has probably worn a bit, i.e. the cup has been removed a few times.
i've never had a cup that comes off easy, but that maybe because all my boxes are virgins and i have a pet hate of undoing things that dont need to be undone to do the same job. i'd much rather waste a boot tie than replace a spline clip or gearbox seal.
tried to change a spline clip before? not a 30 second job.
and if your fucking up doing the CV boot tie's, you dont know how to do them right. you can do them with a screw driver and pliers, its a pain but there is a knack to it. otherwise, just do the smart thing and get the right tool for the job and buy one of these.
http://www.drivewerks.com/catalog/shopcart/TOOL/POR_TOOL_CAT265_pg13.htm
it cost me $7 from the local drive shaft shop, perfect every time.
anyway, thats how and why i do it the way i do, and why i recommend it vs pulling the CV cup out.
I've always reused the original stainless OEM band clamp yes there's a knack but its not that hard :roll:
as for replacing spline clips Ive never had one brake or split on me so never needed to replace one.
as for popping the CV cups Ive never had a issue popping them out with an old pry bar :roll:
If I've drained good gearbox oil out to remove drive shafts I've always used a clean oil drip tray and thrown it back in afterwards, this also has another benefit too as I stain it back into a new oil container just in case there are any foreign objects which is a good method of checking what's floating around in your gearbox just a preventative maintenance thing i always do ton check on gearbox condition. Then again I'm normally very thorough than most with my mechanical tasks.
as for replacing spline clips Ive never had one brake or split on me so never needed to replace one.
as for popping the CV cups Ive never had a issue popping them out with an old pry bar :roll:
If I've drained good gearbox oil out to remove drive shafts I've always used a clean oil drip tray and thrown it back in afterwards, this also has another benefit too as I stain it back into a new oil container just in case there are any foreign objects which is a good method of checking what's floating around in your gearbox just a preventative maintenance thing i always do ton check on gearbox condition. Then again I'm normally very thorough than most with my mechanical tasks.
they are 30c cents for new onesLiberoz said:
i know how to get them off without breaking them as well, but when your just going to replace them its easier to cut them off, rather than spend 2-5 mins to save a few cents :roll:never seen one break either, but have seen some very loose ones, mainly from being removed and installed a few times.Liberoz said:
maybe you just got lucky, i've had a few that are absolute kents to remove, maybe that was because it was the first time they were removed though. :roll:Liberoz said:
thats i a really good check, and a very good thing to do, what do you strain with though just out of curiosity? i know gearbox shed a lot of material over time, but the only time i find "bits" or "chunks" is when i break something, otherwise its fine particulated bits of syncro's or just the normal dark gray powder like gear/bearing wear.Liberoz said:
in the end of the day, it achieves the same goal.
different strokes for different folks.
3zercrowd
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Glad you two could help and come to a happy conclusion.....
to4garret said:
I'm not having a debate, I'm just putting in my 2c, I knew there must be a tool to do it properly but now that you have pointed it out I will prolly get one for my toolbox for next time... really thanks for that link.
to4garret said:
Richard said:
I know how to do it good! I let the Apprentice hava go at work the other day and had to :lol: as I watched him fucking around, I grabbed the pry bar from him and pop it was out, he couldnt beleive how easily it came!
