evolutionary
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Seen alot if HID conversion kits online and just wondering what everyone thinks, who has done the "upgrade" and what to look out for?
Too HID or not to HID, that is the ?.
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evo-gsr
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Most of them are cheap rubbish shit...I've had two sets now and they last a few weeks then blow...
If I was you I would only buy a brand name set as you get what you pay for.
If I was you I would only buy a brand name set as you get what you pay for.
4piknup
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I have had about 5 sets of cheap ones in various cars and bikes and I have had 1 blown ballast probably from a dodgy earth.
I reccomemd the 4300k sets and if you have separate high and low beams watch out when you go to high beam, it takes a little bit for the lights to warm up. I avoid this by bridging the low beam relay so that low beam is on wether you are on low or high beam.
If you use 35w hid the factory wiring will handle 4x35w.
I reccomemd the 4300k sets and if you have separate high and low beams watch out when you go to high beam, it takes a little bit for the lights to warm up. I avoid this by bridging the low beam relay so that low beam is on wether you are on low or high beam.
If you use 35w hid the factory wiring will handle 4x35w.
JayRome
Blurring the line between 1st to 3rd Gen engines..
unless you have the specific head lights that work with HID's, you will just blind people on the road....
i have projector head lights on my car with 6000k HID's (have lasted for 5 years now), and i'm tempted to go back to Halogen bulbs....
i have projector head lights on my car with 6000k HID's (have lasted for 5 years now), and i'm tempted to go back to Halogen bulbs....
4piknup
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The 6000k are crap. They have almost 0 penetration.
Try some 4300k bulbs before you pull them out.
They are heaps better
Try some 4300k bulbs before you pull them out.
They are heaps better
evo-gsr
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^ Yep..6000k are the wrong colour spectrum...
If you adjust the HID's properly you shouldn't have an issue with blinding others. I would guess it has more to do with the colour of the light.
If you adjust the HID's properly you shouldn't have an issue with blinding others. I would guess it has more to do with the colour of the light.
JayRome
Blurring the line between 1st to 3rd Gen engines..
pro's and cons with even trying to adjust the beam...
in regards to H4's head lights
all H4 HID bulbs throw out a full 360deg ray of light (minus the ones with the servo adjuster for high and low), actual H4 Halogen bulbs low beam will only throw out a 180-200deg ray of light, high beam throws out a 360deg ray, meaning low beams only using the top half of the reflector to shine on the road... when putting HID's into standard halogen system, even though they are a hell of alot more efficient and brighter, they will blind the shit out of people due to reflecting light on the bottom half of the reflector which actually face up. even if you were to adjust your head lights, it wont make a difference and still blind on coming traffic.
The 6000's are better suited for projector headlights which concentrate the beam much better than the OEM halogen headlight body which just spreads the light all over the place.
And yes, the aftermarket HID kits are illegal to use on cars that didnt come with them OEM, plus some crap about requiring auto levelling function, auto levelling suspension and headlight washers/wipers?? something like that anyway.
This I guess is in case you have a car load of people in the back or towing, that the back end of the car doesnt squat down and raise the front end up making your HID's blind oncoming motorists.
Too right because I fkn hate getting blinded by idiots who dont adjust their HID's properly! :angry:
And yes, the aftermarket HID kits are illegal to use on cars that didnt come with them OEM, plus some crap about requiring auto levelling function, auto levelling suspension and headlight washers/wipers?? something like that anyway.
This I guess is in case you have a car load of people in the back or towing, that the back end of the car doesnt squat down and raise the front end up making your HID's blind oncoming motorists.
Too right because I fkn hate getting blinded by idiots who dont adjust their HID's properly! :angry:
EV0300
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tell me about it, they think they are mad but really they are idiots.
i would recommend 4300k aswell as it has more penetration, but have you looked at the 5000k halogen globes they are very clear/white and you will have a better chance of not getting stuck by the popo.
evolutionary
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My biggest concern was in regards to possible electrical faults. Last thing I was is an engine fire or the sort. But just reading through replies, it's the life long story! You get what you pay for. If I'm going to to it I buy a better quality set not the $30 bangers on eBay lol
4piknup
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$30 bangers ftw!!
When they break throw them out,
They all made in the same factory anyway, just some come in a fancier box.
When they break throw them out,
They all made in the same factory anyway, just some come in a fancier box.
4piknup
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As jayrome says, of you using h4 you need the bixenon kit with the servo shade in it.
But he is incorrect in saying that the top half of the reflector shines on the road and the bottom or unsheilded part shines off the bottom of the reflector and into peoples eyes.
I have converted the mrs tuscon to h4 hid and the low beam cut off points are much clearer than with the oem halogen lights. Also they are much cleaner light with less illumination above the cut off point.
I focus the low beam on the neighbors roller door over the road and use a laser level to set the horizontal height. Specs say 0.5% down from horizontal. So the neighbors roller door is about 50m away so 250mm down from level is pretty close.
But he is incorrect in saying that the top half of the reflector shines on the road and the bottom or unsheilded part shines off the bottom of the reflector and into peoples eyes.
I have converted the mrs tuscon to h4 hid and the low beam cut off points are much clearer than with the oem halogen lights. Also they are much cleaner light with less illumination above the cut off point.
I focus the low beam on the neighbors roller door over the road and use a laser level to set the horizontal height. Specs say 0.5% down from horizontal. So the neighbors roller door is about 50m away so 250mm down from level is pretty close.
evolutionary
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So the HID's work well using the stock headlight setup? Meaning the fact they don't have the projector in them? I think I really need to do it, going from my company car (2011 ES Lancer) to the Evo at night struggle driving at night. Thank god the the fog lamps or I could see sh#* at night.
Next thing is, 4300k or 6000k globes?
Next thing is, 4300k or 6000k globes?
Worst car for visibility at night. Mazda eunos. My sister has one. Can't see out the back at night and headlights do nothing. My low beams in my coupe with standard bulbs are more visible than the eunos on high beam. Ha ha. Maybe I'll try adjust the beam see if that helps. It's terrible! Then again drove a customers one and it was the same
4piknup
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Sorry dude. I had the hid on high beam on the coupe lights the same as yours. There is funny adjustments on those lights, you adjust the high and the low moves as well, then you do the lows after. They are a bit fiddly, I chuck a towel over the left and adjust the right and viseversa. And don't make the lows parallel like \__\__ bring the patterns together so the start of the \ is in the middle of your lane as far along the road as you can see it (20m ish)
I didn't do the lows as there is a delay when you dip the lights as the lows warm up. I was going to wire the low beam relay to run all the time and just the high flick on and off. The standard wiring will support 35w high and low running at same time.
4piknup
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6000k are all show, they are like a led torch compared to a halogen torch. They are bright but don't penetrate well. Get the 4300k they are much better.
I'm not sure what they will be like. As above, if you have prisms in the front glass them may be crap. I haven't tried them in these type lights...
evolutionary
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I've just ordered 4300k mechanical hi/lo and even 1m extension cables to be able to neatly tuck away the boxes. I resprayed a hail damage 2012 Holden cruze last week which had HID's fitted aftermarket and the ballast were screwed into the the radiator support with a cheap galv bracket. It was the ugliest setup with these boxes flapping around in the engine bay.
4piknup
master of none
I tuck the ballasts up near the indicaters and use a guard bolt or something existing to secure them. Use same bolt to use as the earth, and put a star washer in there for a good connection. One install I cut the bulb wires so I didn't have to cut a big hole in the light backing cover.
Can you put up pic of the light pattern on wall before and after
Can you put up pic of the light pattern on wall before and after
