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I remember reading about this a few years back .. it's a pity it never got sorted, I've seen some really well engineered twin charge cars around that have worked exceptionally well.
 
well it was sorted then he got over it n sold it.

it made 600whp and was running fine but then he he wanted to make more power but none of the workshops was capable/ didnt wanna tune or work on it.
 
I might have to reread it all again, but as I remember it was never 'sorted' when it was making that kind of power - still had heaps of problems with transition and reliability, didn't get raced with the setup, only really got driven to tuners, etc.
 
yeah guy ended up racing it and ran a falt 11 or high 10 from memory.

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Originally Posted by High_PSI
Lack if interest? You simply decided that after you spent thousands of dollars, couldn't figure out how to fix the problem and even have AMS tell you that they couldn't do it, and THEN you decided you lost interest. Please.....

If you are confused over "Cut and Run" please re-read my post above describing it. I had a feeling that it would be an issue so I included it just in case.




This is what you did.



2. We did something that no one else has tried and had a lot of fun doing it.


This part I get , I really do, but I just can't get over how much time and money you spent just to give up and take a loss like that. IDK why you would put such a negative connotation on "Cut and Run" as you are clearly taking it negatively and politically (George Bush)


I think you are also confused on having a car sold = Cut and Run. You basically admitted defeat with the Twin Charged Evo ate all the costs associated with a car that by your own admission never ran properly and then sold it. How is that not a "Cut and Run"? It is, in fact it is the definition. I also don't remember asking about any of your future projects, just why you decided to quit on the Evo which you claimed was "Lack of Interest". I believe the lack of interest coincided with the failure to get the results you felt were adequate and, yes, once again, here it comes, "Cut and Run.'

"Admitted defeat." High PSI I really don't get your point. Please define defeat? AMS didn't want to work on the car because they didn't build it. Union 7 (Bert) wasn't comfortable tuning it beyond 700 HP because of lack of experience. The car made over 600 awhp and ran in the 10's consistently without problems. How is this defeat? Please define your definition of defeat as it's different than mine. I didn't set out to break any 1/4 mile records or dyno records (Would 800 HP and high 9's have cut it in your book or do I need to own it for a certain period of time?). I set out to build a high HP Evo that didn't suffer from severe turbo lag at altitude. Most important, I set out to build something entirely different. Mission accomplished.

If I had to do it again I'd go with twin turbos. Altitude is a huge problem when it comes to large turbos and low displacement engines. I'm scared now of new projects because I'd hate for someone that I respect (sarcasm) such as yourself to accuse me of "cutting and running." Before I start my next project I'll PM you for an acceptable time table, acceptable HP levels, and accpetable 1/4 mile times.

Let's start with the Cayenne:

In order to please you how long do I need to keep it before it's sold? How much power does it need to make? What times do I need to run? Please define success for me and help me avoid the stigma of "cutting and running." Your guidance is greatly appreciated especially when one considers all of your accomplishments. I'll put the Cayenne project on hold until I hear back from you. Thanks for your help.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by High_PSI
Lack if interest? You simply decided that after you spent thousands of dollars, couldn't figure out how to fix the problem and even have AMS tell you that they couldn't do it, and THEN you decided you lost interest. Please.....

If you are confused over "Cut and Run" please re-read my post above describing it. I had a feeling that it would be an issue so I included it just in case.




This is what you did.



2. We did something that no one else has tried and had a lot of fun doing it.


This part I get , I really do, but I just can't get over how much time and money you spent just to give up and take a loss like that. IDK why you would put such a negative connotation on "Cut and Run" as you are clearly taking it negatively and politically (George Bush)


I think you are also confused on having a car sold = Cut and Run. You basically admitted defeat with the Twin Charged Evo ate all the costs associated with a car that by your own admission never ran properly and then sold it. How is that not a "Cut and Run"? It is, in fact it is the definition. I also don't remember asking about any of your future projects, just why you decided to quit on the Evo which you claimed was "Lack of Interest". I believe the lack of interest coincided with the failure to get the results you felt were adequate and, yes, once again, here it comes, "Cut and Run.'

One more point I'd like to make:

You said it never ran properly. This isn't true as it ran great. We had issues when we tried pushing it passed 700 HP on the dyno. Otherwise the car ran awesome and was very reliable. Once the the car (any car) makes huge power maintanence becomes an issue. This was not a car that anyone could maintain and the guy who knew the car lived 2000 miles away. Do you see how this might present a challenge?

You also keep talking about the thousands that I spent and lost on this project. Do you really think losing thousands on highly modified cars or high dollar cars is unusual? If you do, I advise you to stick with what you know. This Evo didn't set any personnel records for me as far as losses go.

At the end of the day I enjoyed the project, had three levels of build on the same car, and did something that's never been tried before. I'm happy and that's really all that matters, right?
 

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