Wheel spacers on rear end?

[Astron Boy]

Possibly a stupid question.
Is it possible to just put a small spacer on the rear hubs? only looking at about 5-10mm.....
Front are fine...

New offroad tyres are rubbing on the suspension sheath.

 

[kaotik]

well i was running 25mm bolt on spacers on the rear of my VR4 for a while with no issues.
10-15mm should be fine so long as theyre hubcentric spacers, otherwise they could cause the wheel to spin un-true.

 

[MattL]

I'm not a fan of spacers to say the lease... however If thats the way you want to go, I'd really suggest getting lengthened wheel studs so you still have a fair amount of grip on the nuts holding the wheel on.... they're $4 a stud I think, so I see it as worth it

 

[Astron Boy]

ok, cheers to you both, will go about both those!

edit: http://justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=17032&cat=0&page=1 (annoyingly out of stock), but would they be suffice? (safe)

 

[JAP63]

ok, cheers to you both, will go about both those!

edit: http://justjap.com/store/product.php?productid=17032&cat=0&page=1 (annoyingly out of stock), but would they be suffice? (safe)

The biggest concern for using a spacer is ;

1 Sufficient stud length.
2 Correct Hubcentric fit.

You need at LEAST the thread flush with the end of the nut and also the spacer should be made to be hubcentric with your hub. This means, the centre of the spacer needs to be the same PCD as your Hub. SInce it is unlikely this will be the case with an off the shelf spacer, you should make a ring to take up the difference. Too often this is over looked.

If the thread is flush with the end of the nut, Id be looking at applying 222 or 243 Loctite also as a precaution. Other factors are at play when using a spacer like increasing the bending moment on the stud due to the wheel being moved on the thread. However, if everything is Hubcentric and the correct torque is applied it should operate fine. Ensuring the setup is hubcentric removes the possibility of the stud wanting to bend more since the load is transfered axially along the stud. This is very important.

Spacers are illegal for a reason, and that is because more often than not, people dont understand whats required for it to work and dont use them properly, hence the vehicle becomes unsafe and not only endangers the driver but everyone else around them.Do not be one of those people that loses a wheel on the highway because they didnt do it properly.

 

[Astron Boy]

After having a really good look under the car yesterday I noted something odd.
The left wheel (passenger) actually sites a bit closer in than the drivers side.
The actual tire has about.... 8mm gap on the right, compared to half of that on the left........

WTF :unsure:

I can't see any previous damage or anything that would be causing the issue, even the tyres guys (who do suspension) said the car was fine tyres don't rub unless hard cornering so they wouldn't have known.

But I find it rather odd.

Curious if anyone else has this issue?

not cheap chinese rims either, SSR Integrals

 

[JAP63]

After having a really good look under the car yesterday I noted something odd.
The left wheel (passenger) actually sites a bit closer in than the drivers side.
The actual tire has about.... 8mm gap on the right, compared to half of that on the left........

WTF :unsure:

I can't see any previous damage or anything that would be causing the issue, even the tyres guys (who do suspension) said the car was fine tyres don't rub unless hard cornering so they wouldn't have known.

But I find it rather odd.

Curious if anyone else has this issue?

not cheap chinese rims either, SSR Integrals

8mm sounds alot. Get the floorpan and subframe checked by someone that knows what to look for, by this i mean stressed paint, cracked paint, new vs faded paint lines on the edge of the floor where the cradle/control arms sit, uneven rubber bush settling etc..
I hope im wrong when i say this, but it could be possible that you have either floorpan or subframe damage. I know the suspension/alignment people are saying its fine, all they are usually concerned with is that the wheels track straight, which is still possible regardless of damage. Ive seen a 10mm difference in which the floorpan was damaged and it still aligned straight.
Check that the offset of the rims are all the same, then check if the wheels are aligned all the same. Its possible that when the wheel alignment was done the total toe across the car was acheived by having different settings from left to right, what im saying is dont ever expect the same dimensions from the tyre to guard with every corner, you never will have them identical....however, when I say this, im talking a few mm at most.

 

[tborvr]

8mm sounds alot. Get the floorpan and subframe checked by someone that knows what to look for, by this i mean stressed paint, cracked paint, new vs faded paint lines on the edge of the floor where the cradle/control arms sit, uneven rubber bush settling etc..
I hope im wrong when i say this, but it could be possible that you have either floorpan or subframe damage. I know the suspension/alignment people are saying its fine, all they are usually concerned with is that the wheels track straight, which is still possible regardless of damage. Ive seen a 10mm difference in which the floorpan was damaged and it still aligned straight.
Check that the offset of the rims are all the same, then check if the wheels are aligned all the same. Its possible that when the wheel alignment was done the total toe across the car was acheived by having different settings from left to right, what im saying is dont ever expect the same dimensions from the tyre to guard with every corner, you never will have them identical....however, when I say this, im talking a few mm at most.

I wasm thinking the same thing...I've seen a 38mm difference :thumbsdown: worked out the K frame was f@#ked.

Then again, it was only a commodore lol

 

[Hyper_Mike]

Sorry to revive and old thread, however, I'm looking to run some wheels and they have a bore diameter of 64.1mm, would i just be able to get some 5mm spacers for the rear to cover the hub on my RVR?

Cheers, Mike