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[Tripmcneily]

Hiya all, don't hate me, but i converted my E1 RS into a drift car... it's not 100% finished, as i need to find some more steering lock from somewhere! other than that though, they go pretty good!

Anyone else running anything similar?

[JAP63]

Ive seen an Evo III one in japan
Hows your driveline holding up?

At my work we have Evo X drift cars..the drivelines have suffered largely.

[htgsr]

Hvae you spun the engine or still runnning a right angle box? I think it was on ebay someone had a north/south conversion kit for sale

[Missile]

Hvae you spun the engine or still runnning a right angle box? I think it was on ebay someone had a north/south conversion kit for sale

That was a late model evo engine, but i suppose if you were going to the trouble of a N/S conversion what is the hassel of putting in a late model engine...

https://cars2.ebay.c...emZ230335606669

http://www.ae86drivi...read.php?t=2176

This lad was.has been trying to sell up for ages. You will find some info of the car on the web, and possibly even on these forums. I am pretty sure that he has only removed the front shafts, and everything else is holding fine. He even stated in one of the adds that the front drive shafts are still in his boot. Theres a start for you.

Edited by Missile, 08 July 2009 - 12:11 AM.

[Tripmcneily]

Yeah, my driveline seems to be ok, having good diffs help. I don't really see there being too many issues as the car is making more or less standard power. Also I find that because my car is so light in the rear, it spins up really easy (it's an RS thats stripped out bare, just cage and 2 seats...) It tends to just break traction rather than components :-P It's still in the original transverse config too by the way!

[Missile]

Yeah, my driveline seems to be ok, having good diffs help. I don't really see there being too many issues as the car is making more or less standard power. Also I find that because my car is so light in the rear, it spins up really easy (it's an RS thats stripped out bare, just cage and 2 seats...) It tends to just break traction rather than components :-P It's still in the original transverse config too by the way!

So you have basically just removed the front shafts...

[JAP63]

Hvae you spun the engine or still runnning a right angle box? I think it was on ebay someone had a north/south conversion kit for sale

Nah, there was an offer to from someone in Japn to set it upo that way for us. The company decided not to (so I hear). They should have IMO. Just keep breaking stuff.!

[Tripmcneily]

Pretty much, Remove the front drive shafts and throw in a solid viscous coupler and your away... (and then around, and around and around...)

[GSR-747]

You've gotta admit its a pretty shit set up tho, using two right angle transfers, but if it does what you want, have fun and try not to break shit!

[mattrat]

i love the idea.. when i get some money and time im seriously considering turning the vr4 n/s and having it a rwd monster.. just to be different
dont think there are any n/s vr4s in the world

[VR-4Squid]

You've gotta admit its a pretty shit set up tho, using two right angle transfers, but if it does what you want, have fun and try not to break shit!

Don't have to admit anything of the sort, certainly from an engineering point of view it's not "ideal", but very little to do with production cars IS.

Given that once you have a locked centre diff it takes 30 minutes and costs NOTHING to do...

and for that matter, 30 minutes and the cost of a pot of grease and cable ties for the cv boots to UN-do...

I'd say it's not a bad option at all if you want a little fun.

[EVL20T]

http://horsepowerina...ategory67_1.htm

Mitsubishi EVO 1-2-3 RWD Conversion Coupling - $434.50 inc GST within Australia

[VR-4Squid]

Fark that's expensive!

Welded centre diff is a much cheaper option.

[JAP63]

I'd say it's not a bad option at all if you want a little fun.

Agreed.
Still, Id just be buying a 180 sx. Props for being different but a 180 looks better full locked with smoke coming out of the guards than a lancer does.

I had soooooo much fun leaping across intersections in the Evo that id never want to give it up.
The amount of frustrated RWD contenders was immense, I loved it.

North south would be the go, for longevity anyway, its just expensive and time consuming. If you know how to drive soft enough and smooth enough, youre right angle drives and driveline will handle the drifting anyway.

[mrcyborg]

hey guys, a workshop next to work has just got a 2wd dyno and i been thinking i would like to stick the car on there, and wouldnt mind trying rwd out seen i have a nice mech rear diff. i just also happen to have a vce in my shed i havent tried out either.
quick q for those who know. the gearbox, is it safe just sticking a cv cup in it? it wont vibrate and come out at high speeds? was thinking of getting most of a cup machined off so there is less weight outside of the gearbox? what do people think?

[Velocity Racing]

If you want it to stay 2WD for a while, id make sure you have a plentiful supply of rear diffs.

There has been a few 2wd Evo’s and Vr4’s around the traps..

One of the rally guys here ran his Evo 2 rally car in Rwd for a few drift events here, fairly un-successfully. The big problem was the lack of steering lock made it a real handful and very easy to loop... I believe they ended up a rear diff in it, as it just didn’t like the punishment it got.

The Monkhouse boys also built an Evo 7 drift car, which still ran an E-W motor. They got some special front arms from Japan to fix the steering lock issues and that improved it. From memory (and I could be wrong here) the rear diff and transfer didn’t like the power required to make the car competitive.

There was also that guy in New Zealand that converted his RS Vr4 to RWD.

I would think that the modification that would be required to the firewall to fit a north south motor would not be worth the result that you would get, it would be an interesting exercise however..

[thirteen]

Using a car designed for grip on loose surfaces, in a motor sport where the idea is to loose traction is interesting.

[Tripmcneily]

You've gotta admit its a pretty shit set up tho, using two right angle transfers, but if it does what you want, have fun and try not to break shit!

Yeah, I see what your saying, but at the same time the whole idea appeals to me on a number of levels.
Firstly, its not another of the million s13's i see at the drift day, so everyone is always interested in the car, which is cool.
Secondly, it appeals to me on the basis of really fitting into the whole drift culture. The idea that you just drive the shit out of what you have. I had an E1, so I make it work, it has the effect of polarizing people though, most people love it because it's different, some people hate it because it's different, but nobody seems to be indifferent to it.
Thirdly, its still racing... you break shit on any production car racing them.

[Tripmcneily]

Also, it's an engineering exercise for me to make it work. I will be leaving my stamp on a car. I love the idea of that too. The steering is something I am really looking at. Anything can be overcome with a little effort (and ca$h).
It's like any other modified car. Taking a car built for one thing, and making it do something else.

[JAP63]

Youve got an individual approach, which is great and respected.

Its probably a good thing to see the 3 diamonds out there giving nissans a run. Anything can be acheived providing the money is available. You may not be using the best platform but you will stil have fun.

The thing is , mitsubishi have spent somewhere around 8 years making the car grip, and your trying to forfeit that engineering. Its not undoable or sacriligeous, just a bit harder...and if you ever want any proof its a bit harder just ask how the movieworld stunt show Evo X's handle it, not real good....haha. The moment you distribute 100% of torque and power to the rear when its designed to see about half that, its probably gonna turn bad sooner or later..

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