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flyboy11

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Hi all,

I am chasing a suitable gearbox for my cc lancer coupe and relevant bits to make it all work well.

I am not sure if it is the vr4 box I need or the gsr gearbox?? It is a vr4 motor. Also what crossmember and driveshafts will i require??

Anything else?? Anyone got bits that I may need that they wish to sell??

Cheers

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You need a box with roll stoppers on it. A VR4 box has none.
Cheers !

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Is it still front wheel drive. Find out if ggsr box fits a vr4 motor. I'm bot 100% sure. I think it does.

If answer is yes I used lancer cc 1.5 gearbox coz it means u keep the sameengine mounts for the car plus same cross member.
Alternativly if u want something stronger go the lancer gsr gearbox. It's a bit more work coz u need to change kframe and matching cross member to that of a lancer gsr. Plus hydraulic clutch conversion. I did it on the weekend. Gearbox will need a lockspline so it doesn't run awd. But it's not hard. If ur in melbs I can give u a hand.

The other thing with the motor is the engine side mount. To make it fit properly go to www.meek.com.au or call them on (02)97691576. Ask for part numbers 327 and 328. They r a two price angina mount. I recommend doing it before the engine goes in coz it's very tight under there. I think both for 390$ they are asking.

The only other thing I can think of is simply the way u wire in the loom :) anything else just drop me a line :)
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Driveshafts for both gsr lancer boxes are the same :)
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The conversion has already been done Gianni.. Am wanting to put a gearbox in that can take the power and be reliable, but be placed in properly.
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Try the lancer gsr box. That's what I got. The 1.5l doesn't seem to last long. But as above I put in all u need for that box. Kframe crossmember hydraulic clutch from lancer gsr. But just double check if it'll fit. I have a ggsr motor in my coupe. I think the only diff between ggsr and vr4 is turbo and a few internals
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use a ggsr box, just give it a freshen up with a some new shims, seals etc. load the gears up with a slight amount of preload

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What mounts do u use if ur putting the ggsr gearbox in. Coz the mounts for that set up are on the engine not the box. They won't line up with the cross member. Just double checking coz I had that problem originally with the ggsr. That's why I went with the 1.5L cc box and later the lgsr box
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I have a pair of offset mounts that go from the GSR rail to the front of the motor & transfer case for the rear one if you need them.
They are engineered on my GSR, so they are legal & strong enough to do the job.
I'll be using an RVR auto in the GSR Lancer later, so I won't be using those mounts.
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Ok thanks for the info guys.. can someone please give me an idea of where I can get these parts???? I got no idea and would rather do this sooner than later..

Prices would be great also.

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I have a pair of offset mounts that go from the GSR rail to the front of the motor & transfer case for the rear one if you need them.
They are engineered on my GSR, so they are legal & strong enough to do the job.
I'll be using an RVR auto in the GSR Lancer later, so I won't be using those mounts.
Cheers !


Thanks Rock, will get back to you.. May i ask how much you are chasing for them??
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$100 for the pair sound ok ? That should cover me buying 2 2nd hand box roll stopper steels.
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Try Imlacs 95521999 or Mitspares 95872388
I remember it was about $400 for a second had ggsr box or $800ish for a reco one
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What mounts do u use if ur putting the ggsr gearbox in. Coz the mounts for that set up are on the engine not the box. They won't line up with the cross member. Just double checking coz I had that problem originally with the ggsr. That's why I went with the 1.5L cc box and later the lgsr box


he said it's a vr4 motor. the mounts for a vr4 motor are on the block not the gearbox. the lancers have the mount on the gearbox.

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And it's going into a Lancer Craig so I would guess he needs mounts on the box dude.

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unless of course u get custom made mounts for front rear and drivers side...which is do-able of course...just depends on how much work u wanna do :) the lancer gsr conversion has been done many many times before with great results and it leaves u open for awd conversionin the future....but it is totally up to u and what u wanna get out of it my freind :) any questions feelfree to send me a pm :)
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Lancer GSR gearbox fits the VR4 motor. Its easier and better for installing into your CC coupe.
But as advised, once you want to fit an AWD gearbox in your existing FWD arrangement you need an AWD K-frame and crossmember.
Then if you're wanting the AWD gearbox converted to FWD, you will need a 2WD locking spline.
You can use the existing FWD driver's side cv shaft.
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And it's going into a Lancer Craig so I would guess he needs mounts on the box dude.


my understanding of it is that the motor is already in the car, hence why I suggested the GGSR box. if the motor is already in then the mounts would already be in and on the block.

However if the motor isn't in yet then yes I agree that the Lancer GSR box locked in FWD is the way to go.

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Ok, When you guys are referencing to GGsr Box.. what do u mean?? gsr or vr4??

Looks like I am going to need a gsr box and crossmember and k frame.. Anyone want to sell these if they have them??
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Ggsr is gallant gsr. Different to lancer gsr

I have a crossmember. No kframe. Only standard kframe from the coupe which is no good to u. Don't forget u will need hydraulic clutch set up too :)
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