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[ZedEx]

Wondering if anyone has actually ever seen the 4wd cordia? The fwd cordia chassis have the space for a tail shaft so i'm wondering what would be involved to do an awd conversion to a cordia. The fuel tank seems to be in the way of where the rear diff would need to be placed, does any one know another fuel tank that may bolt into its place or where you can get a 4wd cordia fuel tank?

For those of you who have done the 2lt conversion to the cordia. I have heard that it is easier to bolt up the VR4 4G63 but would an EVO 4G63 bolt in there easy enough?

[AUSVR4]

Go to cordiapower.com and do a search. The rear suspension is quite different, as is the fuel tank as you said. Also because of the lack of firewall room the gearbox setup is quite different, and you wont be able to use the VR4 gearbox etc unless u cut away a bit of the firewall, which means have fun getting it engineered!!
For the fuel pump and associated parts the best bet is to look in new zealand. Thats what a friend of mine did. You wont find the parts here as there are only 1 or 2 here

As for the EVO engine, theres more dicking around with the engine mounts to bolt it up, the flywheel needs modifying etc etc. Plus theres the problem of crankwalk. The VR4 engine will always be the better choice. And cheaper

[ZedEx]

Cheers dude,

Had a look on cordia power but couldnt find the info i was looking for.
The reason i wanted to use the 7 bolt motor is i may be about to have one spare... depending on how i decide to go about things with my current car.
Was maybe going to try fit up EVO drivetrain seeing as how i may also have a spare g/box, rear diff, tail shaft etc.

Will keep researching into this i think... only this that puts me off the is the part about cutting into the firewall :x coz getting it engineered would be a prick.

[GSRSOL]

theres a 4wd cordia being built at AFAS as we speak.....

[CLuTZ]

theres a 4wd cordia being built at AFAS as we speak.....

There is indeed.

Best bet would be to call or email darren.

[ZedEx]

Oh sick i'll be doing that Cheers guys

[Entaran]

It's owned by a bloke here in Ballarat who conincidently is Service Manager at.....

Subaru.



HAHHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

his 4wd cords uses all sorts of crazy bits and daz won't give much info on it. Needless to say it's green and mean.

[VR-4-PLAY]

http://www.turbocrea.../awdcordia.html

apparently it was a pretty primitive awd setup, not even a centre diff :shock:

[bazeng]

thats what i've heard also...

just wondering
would it be easier to fit a cyborg rear or an evo rear?



that green cordia looks clean..
supposably its the rear off something from japland..
darren wont say much about it

[CLuTZ]

lol, darren told me its a VR4 rear end :roll:

[JSTYLE]

lol, darren told me its a VR4 rear end :roll:

it is a VR4 rear end.. i know abit about it but its kind of secretive for now.

Jon

[AUSVR4]

yep thats what the owner said. been building it for ages now...

ill put up a pic of the 4WD cordia drivetrain in a min. and yep its only part time 4WD

[AUSVR4]

bit different to the VR4

(sorry about the size)

[BobWrinkle]

so it doesnt have independant rear?

Sounds like a lancer to me.

[CLuTZ]

so it doesnt have independant rear?

Sounds like a lancer to me.

solid rears, just like C73a 4WD cyborg and GSR's

[Django]

So it's been a very long 30+ years of people being very tight lipped about building their 4WD Cordias. Attached is a photo of the 4wd setup that was used and a list of components in Japanese.

 

If anyone can shed some light on what can be used for a conversion I'm all ears. It must be simple enough, there is a tunnel for a tailshaft in the FWD Cordia and plenty of room for a diff. By the sounds of what has been said on this very old thread and judging by the photo it looks like a gsr rear will fit.

 

These are the specs that are on wikipedia for the Cordia dimensions,

 

  Wheelbase 2,445 mm (96.3 in) Length 4,275 mm (168.3 in) Width 1,660 mm (65.4 in) Height 1,320 mm (52.0 in) Curb weight 960 kg (2,116 lb)

 

I can't find dimensions for the Lancer GSR.

 

The setup in the photo is a solid rear as said, and uses the moustache bar the same as the evo/hypersport.

 

They would be a great competition car if built into an AWD and if anyone that can shed some light on this topic I would be grateful because I've always been curious.

 

My basic ideas would be a subframe from a GSR or galant and a tailshaft cut to size or one that might fit from another car, a custom fuel tank. Gearbox I really have no idea.

 

What was the smallest AWD box out of the Aus spec GSR and the VR-4/galant. Otherwise, would a transfer case from one bolt onto the original Cordia or Magna box from the 2.6? (which fits straight onto the 4g62/4g63)

 

Also curiously and stupidly I spose, the auto that's in the RVR and the Galant would be far too big?

 

ALOT of plug and play that I can't afford to experiment with. Done once, and done right would be a good fast cheap engineer/able car.

 

Really there would not be too much to buy and build to make this car a reality, one sold on Ebay a year or so ago and it wasn't factory, shame it got sold to a tool that doesn't want to share any info...

 

 

Anyway, hope you all are well and I hope I'm not just pissing in the wind here,

 

Cheers!

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[Missile]

gsr specs:

 

Exterior Length 4290mm Exterior Width 1690mm Exterior Height 1405mm Interior Length 1805mm Interior Width 1430mm Interior Height 1175mm Wheelbase 2500mm Front Track 1450mm Rear Track 1460mm Ground Clearance 155mm Weight 1260kg

[Django]

Thanks mate, looks like it will be a sure thing to fit it under, at most get the wheel offset right. Still open to anyone suggesting what they think would fit gearbox wise.

Edited by Django, 05 February 2014 - 11:32 AM.

[jack be nimble]

How bad does the firewall need bashing for the gsr box to go in?
That is your option, either fork out for the cordia bloody rare box or make a commoner gsr box fit. Personally id get the gsr box.

Less work if you go for a solid rear axle too. Lots of work in a irs setup

Edited by jack of all, 05 February 2014 - 01:11 PM.

[TRQ-STR]

The chassis rail needs to be cut to fit the larger gsr/evo and vr4 gearboxes as they are too long.

 

Also, I am quite sure the transfer case will not fit. There were no previsions for this in the design of the subframe and firewall with the FWD chassis.