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Well ,I have started putting the MGB back together after i had to weld a lot of rust including the chassis.I have chosen the color of the car ,lotus elise azure blue with red pearl so i could spray the engine bay myself before the motor goes back in.Then i can drive to the paint shops for quotes.The car has been apart for 10 months now so finally starting the refitting of everything.As said before in a previous post,the car is a1962 MGB with a 89 jspec vr4 4g63,1980 lancer 5speed gearbox.The motor is stock but running a haltech E6x and has been like this for nearly 10years.with my own tuneup i got the car doing 13.6 secs at 100mph on 14psi at willowbank on 185 size tyres,and the car is 1050kg.

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Well the MGB is almost back on the road to get a paint job.Ive done a complete rewire because MG being 1962 didn't bother useing fuses or relays.So i have Rewired the car myself as well to allow now 8 fuses and 3 main battery fuses.Also the main power wires have been upgraded in size and i also added blade style plug connectors instead of the mg bullet connectors.

Everything is mechanically back together and i had to go back to my old toyota soarer intercooler, because it fits better than the vr4 intercooler.To get clearances for the motor ,i had to move the bonnet's middle support bar just 5mm because it hit my timing cover.Then i found out that the timing cover hits the bonnet skin still,the old bonnet was fibreglass and i think it flexed a bit over the cover.Anyway i wont run the timing cover for now or i have to get a hump in the bonnet to clear. The whole car is a real mix and match for parts to fit,Brakes are 1981 lancer brake booster with a 1983 mazda 323 brake master cylinder .Vr4 motor,1981 lancer 5speed gearbox.Magna flywheel,sigma clutch pressure plate and scorpion clutch disc.The magna flywheel gives me a 225mm clutch on a small boltup gearbox.Great cheap combo that dosent slip for me doing mid 13's and nice and light pedal for everyday driving. But my motor is only standard running 14psi boost, and the car only weighs 1000kg.

The dash is now all VDO electronic gauges including speedo,and i will get i coverd in vinyl later.

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This is awesome man, well done! Looking forward to seeing the project complete! I'd love to see this out on the roads and because I'm local I hope I do!
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Nice build. Your plans to enjoy it on the road or take it for some track fun?
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Nice build. Your plans to enjoy it on the road or take it for some track fun?


Just road use,Thats what ive been useing it for the last 10years with that motor and 30years before that standard between my father and I.It actually gets better fuel economy than the standard 1.8l cast iron pushrod motor.

I tried track work and the problem is that with the vr4 motor in ,it changes the cars catergory.So i get put in to special class which is westfields and cobras,they flogged me.
another problem is that my handling and braking is safe and comparable if you dont be an idiot.But to be competitive i need to spend thousands on suspension,brakes and tyres. I tried club racing in the mg car club, and other than i was not a good race driver,they are so competetive that they even buff their race tyres within so many minutes before a race to get optimum grip and adjust tyre pressures to .1psi accuracy.
But on saying that they were very good race drivers,they could get their MGB's doing the same lap times as MX5's.

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that looks mad!..

makes me want to 4G63T my MG Midget (but then i would be shot by the MG club lol)....

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that looks mad!..

makes me want to 4G63T my MG Midget (but then i would be shot by the MG club lol)....


Thats all right ,then they wont hate me as much..LOL

MG midget would be great at 200kg less and 3/4 the size of the MGB,it would be insane to drive. But if i had clearance problems i would love to see the midget getting a 4g63 squeezed in.Just the stupid chassis rails on the MGB dived in towards the block at the front,with only 20mm gap between block and rail each side. So i had to make an adaptor plate for the whole oil filter housing to be remotely connected with hydraulic hoses and even high mount the alternator off the original power steering area.

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very nice project mate will be a good little sleeper

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Was it overly hard to do?
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Was it overly hard to do?



getting the motor and gearbox in wasn't too hard,but getting room for all the ancillery stuff like turbo,air cleaner,intercooler to fit in was the hardest.I was driving the car round for 10years with all the stuff in but not really finished off neat,just functional.

Funny thing was that, when the original mg gearbox finally lost all syncros at the 500,000km mark and i was sick of double up clutch and double declutch for gear changeing,i priced a replacement.About $1500 second hand or $3000 rebuilt because parts have to come from england.so it was cheaper to do the 4g63 conversion and engineering than to rebuild my motor and gearbox,even with me doing it.

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Thats all right ,then they wont hate me as much..LOL

MG midget would be great at 200kg less and 3/4 the size of the MGB,it would be insane to drive. But if i had clearance problems i would love to see the midget getting a 4g63 squeezed in.Just the stupid chassis rails on the MGB dived in towards the block at the front,with only 20mm gap between block and rail each side. So i had to make an adaptor plate for the whole oil filter housing to be remotely connected with hydraulic hoses and even high mount the alternator off the original power steering area.


yer the Midgets were literally Midgets... i'm an average sized person and i have a hard enough time getting in and out of it. but even with the cast iron 1275cc engine and the twin side drafts, they go pretty hard for something made in 1970's, it handles like a go-cart around corners. and stock they came with just a 1.75" exhaust with extractors and a resonator on the end, they still sound nuts on high rpm!......

only thing that shits me...... cleaning the bloody WIRE WHEELS OMG!!!!

Edited by JayRome, 18 January 2011 - 02:41 PM.

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I would love to pop around the corner and see this thing someday, are you home at all this weekend?
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I would love to pop around the corner and see this thing someday, are you home at all this weekend?


no probs,home parts of saturday and some of sunday,i will pm you my mobile and address.just text or ring and work out a time.the cars still registered so i can even drive it still.

Edited by turbovr4, 19 January 2011 - 09:46 PM.


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Hi all, I thought that would resurrect an old post. The MGB powered by aVR4 motor is finally painted after 12 months and a complete bare metal respray to get rid of the original 1962 Enamel and Bog. Now it is 2pac dark blue with red pearl so it gets a violet shimmer in the sun. in real life it looks better but here are some pictures once I work out how to attach pictures again

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Here are the MGB pictures, hopefully this works. As I said before, the pictures make it look a lighter shade than wat it really is but basically it is a copy of the Yamaha motorbike blue with red pearl.

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Looks good mate.
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Looks great mate!

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Very nice..........now my wife wants one!

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I havent seen this thread before and im glad I have now.

Nice ride. And a heap more fun than stock
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