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brisvr4
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They do and you need an oval base filter for it.
I'm looking at utilizing my plumbing from my 4g93t setup on the VR4 RS motor I've just bought.
I have an aluminum pipe that comes off my turbo and gradually increases to about a 4" opening which is hose clamped to my air flow meter.
So in theory I'd need to get the plumbing modified to be an oval shape at the end in order to run the VR4 AFM? Is the evo 3 AFM the same? Is there an easier way than modifying the intake pipe?
I have an aluminum pipe that comes off my turbo and gradually increases to about a 4" opening which is hose clamped to my air flow meter.
So in theory I'd need to get the plumbing modified to be an oval shape at the end in order to run the VR4 AFM? Is the evo 3 AFM the same? Is there an easier way than modifying the intake pipe?
brisvr4
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Won't work, the VR4 afm is completely different where it fits the intake pipe.
EVo's are a large oval and the VR4 is small and round in comaprison.
EVo's are a large oval and the VR4 is small and round in comaprison.
JayRome
Blurring the line between 1st to 3rd Gen engines..
on your VR4 RS engine.... stock ECU from that engine wont hack a straight bolt on 609 maf,
you would need to be using either:
VR4 ECU with chip (to run the 609/055 maf)
or
Evo 1-3 ECU
or
Piggy back ecu or maf translator (ie: Emanage, Safc etc)
CLuTZ
Diamonds are forever....
You will have to use the AFM that suits the ECU, not the AFM that suits the motor.
If the rs comes with the evo bolt ons, turbo, manifold, injectors etc, then would the ecu not be suited to run these? Wouldn't that mean the rs ecu is the same ad the evo one?
Apologies for the newbie questions, I've only had experience with 4g93ts up until now...
Apologies for the newbie questions, I've only had experience with 4g93ts up until now...
CLuTZ
Diamonds are forever....
VR4 RS ECU has different plugs than a GSR/EVO ECU- so you won't be able to use that one in your car. You can use the same ECU as you have been running your 4G93T with, but you will obviously need to chip it to run the right AFM, and injectors.
CLuTZ
Diamonds are forever....
What kind of car have you got? CC lancer yeah??
Ok guys, I'm thinking I might just get a chip installed on my VR4 ECU to run an 055 or 609 MAF as it's just going to be neater and a lot easier to find than running the factory VR4 MAF, not to mention flow a lot better.
Anyone know where to get the ECU chipped in/around Sydney? Is this something MEEK can do? Anyone know a rough idea of cost??
Anyone know where to get the ECU chipped in/around Sydney? Is this something MEEK can do? Anyone know a rough idea of cost??
CLuTZ
Diamonds are forever....
You wont be able to run a VR4 ECU with your Proton engine wiring loom mate. Like I said before- match the AFM to the ECU. Not the other way around. You will need a GSR ECU which i'm fairly sure should plug into your existing plugs you have under your dash. To run the 2.0L off the 1.8L ECU, you will need to get it chipped to suit the EVO fuel/ignition maps, to suit the size injectors you're running (if they're not the stock EVO 510cc) and to run a 609 (EVO) or 055 (magna) AFM....
Meek in Sydney should be able to do this for you. I think it's about $100 for an eprom chip- but you will need someone to socket the ECU for you first, which Meek should be able to get done aswell. Maybe give them a call, or post up a WTB ad....
Goodluck!
Ok so I'm not sure if I'm missing something here...
I'm going to be putting a VR4 RS engine into my GTi, I've got the engine, small 16g turbo, matching VR4 RS ecu, matching loom, and standard 510cc injectors.
The only thing the engine didn't come with is the air flow meter, and now I'm trying to work out if it's worth while going with the factory VR4 unit or upgrading to a 609 or 055 AFM.
Why would I bother getting the 1.8l ecu chipped to run this engine and run it on the factory GTi loom when I've got everything matching the engine?
Sorry for all of the questions but this seems like it should be simpler than it's turning out to be?
I'm going to be putting a VR4 RS engine into my GTi, I've got the engine, small 16g turbo, matching VR4 RS ecu, matching loom, and standard 510cc injectors.
The only thing the engine didn't come with is the air flow meter, and now I'm trying to work out if it's worth while going with the factory VR4 unit or upgrading to a 609 or 055 AFM.
Why would I bother getting the 1.8l ecu chipped to run this engine and run it on the factory GTi loom when I've got everything matching the engine?
Sorry for all of the questions but this seems like it should be simpler than it's turning out to be?
CLuTZ
Diamonds are forever....
Forget that the engine is from a VR4 for a sec. It's a 4G63T. To run it in your car, you need to think what model is most similar to yours- which is lancer GSR/EVO 1-3. The engine wiring looms in VR4's are different to ones in GSR's or VR4's. You cant put a VR4 ECU into a GSR or EVO, which means you won't be able to put a VR4 ECU into your Proton, unless you re-wire the whole thing which is a waste of time and money. You will need to match everything to the ECU that you are going to use. You need a GSR ECU that will plug into your existing wiring loom, and chip that, to suit a 609/055 AFM, and maps to run the 4G63T
Ok cool, I've got you now. In actual fact that makes things a lot easier considering if I get my GSR ECU chipped I should be able to just unplug everything and plug everything back in to the factory loom with the new engine?
Again, I hope I'm not sounding completely retarded here but if I purchased an EVO 1-3 ECU would that be an even easier option? Would this plug into my factory loom?
Again, I hope I'm not sounding completely retarded here but if I purchased an EVO 1-3 ECU would that be an even easier option? Would this plug into my factory loom?
CLuTZ
Diamonds are forever....
EVO-00X did an awesome write up here: http://www.4gtuner.com/index.php?/topic/2906-2lt-conversion-faqshelp-ideas/
That is for GSR though- there might be a couple of Proton specific things that someone else might be able to chime in with. Fairly sure it's near the same tho.
EVO 1-3 ECU's aren't able to be logged, which is why I recommended getting a GSR ECU- but if you wanted to use one of those outright, that would be fine, and would plug into your loom.
Awesome, I've been through that write up before but not in detail, thanks for that!
So is it the ECU itself that won't work with the GSR/GTi loom? or is it just the fact that it won't physically plug in? The plugs look very similar to me that's the only reason I ask...
At this stage I'm thinkig the chipped GSR ECU might be the simpler way, as I'm not keen on going full aftermarket engine management.
So is it the ECU itself that won't work with the GSR/GTi loom? or is it just the fact that it won't physically plug in? The plugs look very similar to me that's the only reason I ask...
At this stage I'm thinkig the chipped GSR ECU might be the simpler way, as I'm not keen on going full aftermarket engine management.
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