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[Gianni]

I'm looking for some pics of the Evo 3 bracing for engine bay and rear behind the seats

There are the ones behind the guards
The ones behind the rear seats in a v shape I think
Are there any I'm forgetting that don't come on a coupe/sedan

Pics on or off the car would be helpful if possible. I remember seeing the guard ones in for sale thread recently but can't find it now

[TMAK]

I reckon just check out george's (dougmo) build thread lol.

or google images ?

Edited by TMAK, 20 April 2011 - 12:07 PM.

[Gianni]

I'll check it out. Thanks. Tried google. Phone net sux and it's all I got

[DIESTI]

if i was at home ide post some pics of mine but im not home.. sorry

[Evo-00x]

Gianni, it is very difficult to remove all the bracing from an EVO engine bay and try to retrofit it onto another car. You're best best would be to buy a strut brace, a pair of Ultra Racing fender braces, some good engine mounts (not OEM rubber ones that jolt the engine back and forth when they break) and stay away from very stiff suspension If FWD, minimise your hopping by fitting some anti-lift/castor bushes up front too.

Edited by EVO-00X, 20 April 2011 - 03:23 PM.

[Gianni]

like always. Legend. I read yolks ago about someone buying them off someone's halfcut. So thought they would be bolt on like strut braces .

[ENGINR]

I think MEEK might sell the engine bay braces which are welded from the strut tower to the firewall.

The rear braces which go from the rear strut towers to the rear seat back sheetmetal are harder to come by and very difficult to weld in. They're a prick of a thing to remove from a 1/2 cut too - you virtually need to cut the shell apart to get to them and then pick out the many many spot welds which hold it in.

The V-Brace which goes over the rear seat opening - I don't know where you'll get one of those unless somebody is discarding a rear 1/2 cut which still has it. You could get one fabricated - for a skilled tradie it probably wouldn't be a very difficult job.

There's also the extra webbing which is welded from the crossmember support to the underbody as well.

Edited by ENGINR, 20 April 2011 - 11:05 PM.

[Gianni]

YeH. That's what I was thinking. Get a tradie to make it. Coz they would be a pain to come by. Pics would be fantastic if possible.

What's this meshing u speak of

Strut braces are a definate. But how much power do u need before other braces are necessary. I'll have just over 200kw in a coupe

Edited by Gianni, 20 April 2011 - 11:43 PM.

[leadfoot]

realy depends on what you want to do with it extra bracing is always a beter idea as the chasis can flex with any amount of power in there under certain conditions

[Gianni]

I found this site which talks about how the fender braces help

http://www.streettun.../prod_1727.html

What are the engine bay ones between strut towers and firewall like.

Found an under cariage one. Probs over kill though
http://jdmengineimpo...om/img/8777.gif

I recon fender and engine bay will surfice for front
But what about rear bracing.

Evo-00X. I am looking at bushes frontand rear soon too. Any good value ones u recommend.

[leadfoot]

front strut (4 point) can be had in 2 point
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item2c5c1dbfbb

fender
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item2c5c19e602

under cabin
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item230feb61eb

rear upper
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item230fef9591

rear anti rol 19/23 mm
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item230fe10539
(19)
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item230fe10539
(23)

front anti roll
http://cgi.ebay.com....=item230fe0e901

theres more that tend to go on and off of ebay. i've got ultra racing for front and rear and they are extremly light and of good quality

Edited by khubner1, 21 April 2011 - 05:29 AM.

[Gianni]

What r u running fwd or awd. How powerful I ur motor. What difference do u notice having them on when driving compared to when they are off?

Thanks for the links. Very impressive. All it's missing is a role cage. Ha ha ha

[leadfoot]

stock gsr fwd not sure of power yet isn't in the vehicle also havn't driven with the braces in either as the car has been off the road.

Edited by khubner1, 21 April 2011 - 06:28 AM.

[Gianni]

Ha ha ha. Fair enough. I'm pickin up my new 4g63t I'm the next week. Got a couple of parts left to get. Then giggity

[Evo-00x]

Yep, I have included a set of these as part of my suspension in the AWD coupe and there are no signs of firewall cracking (yet).

Before vs After

[Gianni]

Yeah. I saw that. I'm good with visuals so it helped heaps in understanding the movements

[ONPSI]

Fulcrum Super Pro for the bushes. You can get exact part numbers off their website. http://203.31.191.243/fulcrumCat/

[ENGINR]

Didn't you weld all the bracing to yours Rob?

[EVL20T]

Nah he didnt, all he used was fender braces and strut brace

Um using the front Ultra racing 4 point strut brace and soon be gettin some 3 point fender braces

[Evo-00x]

Na Shayne I didnt. Its a massive pain to remove the braces from an Evo without damaging them. The gif animation above is the main reason why the firewall cracks in CC Lancers and GSR's running stiff suspension.
Guys with FWD's experience front wheel hop a lot more severe than the AWD guys do and thats why I reckon they are prone to crack a lot easier. Fender braces like the Ultra Racing ones should be fitted to all CC Lancers IMO.
Subaru's have fender braces fitted OEM but they are only a single bar across (see pic). Still, anything to strengthen on the area is a lot better than nothing.