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[jack be nimble]

You could cut the inner pivot bracket off & move it up 6mm & add a 6mm plate where you see red.

Cheers !

This is very similar to the subaru brumby rear end and what rockabilly says is very true and certainly worth considering. Cut the mounts, put it on alignment machine and tack the mounts where they need to be. Easy

[Rockabilly]

Jack I moved my inner pivots up on my old glass Dino. RVR rear is like a type 3 VW rear.
Same shit, different day. 265 rear tyres on 15 x 11" rear rims. Very low with no camber.
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Cheers

[FrontLever]

Standard Evo 7 springs > Pedders Sports ryder springs? ..I wish pedders would provide the spring rates..

[jack be nimble]

I love them aldo. So sexy.

Doesnt matter what springs or shocks you use. If the geometry is poo, the results are poo..
And stiff roll bars is better than stiff springs. Ask your kidneys...

[jack be nimble]

Jack I moved my inner pivots up on my old glass Dino. RVR rear is like a type 3 VW rear.
Same shit, different day. 265 rear tyres on 15 x 11" rear rims. Very low with no camber.
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Cheers

Talking about glass dak daks. I was tyre kicking down at the local dyno the other day and he had a purvis eureka with a turbo lacky band in it (rotary).
Still not as sexy as the dino.

[FrontLever]

Doesnt matter what springs or shocks you use. If the geometry is poo, the results are poo..
And stiff roll bars is better than stiff springs. Ask your kidneys...

Trying to make the best of a bad situation, my kidneys are crushes as I sail the seven seas, roll bars would be my first investment if an aftermarket option was available..

[PROGSR]

Trying to make the best of a bad situation, my kidneys are crushes as I sail the seven seas, roll bars would be my first investment if an aftermarket option was available..

Being a former HSG owner ...I hear and know the cry of you guys for better options.

Had my RVR back in 2006 to 07 when they had just came along as a fresh phase of the import scence into OZ.
At that time I got some custom Kings springs made off my originals fitted with only the standard shocks. It handled like a weapon around the twisties being so flat on the road... but I guess it was due to the cars suspension life having done only 40,000kms at the time when I purchased it.
The same issue was running neg 2 in the rear but I didnt keep it long enough to find out the effects of tyre wear.

Now to possibly solve your sway bar issue... I recently got a custom sway bar made for my MK1 Suzuki GTi... it was shaped different to allow clearance for a set of cultus extractors to be fitted to it. I simply supplied them with a diagram with specs of the custom bar I wanted and bingo they made it for me. Your dilemma is so not .... only to just make a thicker sway bar based off the original. All someone has to do is supply an original bar to them so they have something to work off.

This is the link of the company >>> http://www.mako.com.au/
The guy who makes the bars for them is from the selby family ....a former recognised business of many years known as SELBY swaybars. My application was a success. I hope you get can your results too.

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[Connor]

Ok, so I installed Evo X MR bilstein suspension in my RVR, fronts went in easy with the exception of the bilstein shock shaft being too large in diameter for the RVR top hat but after some "modifying" it fitted. I ended up with these results up the front:

+1 or 2 degree camber.
A fair amount of toe-out
Ride height was about the same as a standard RVR with the standard Eibach springs and bilsteins.

So I put my stocks suspension back in until my Evo lowered springs arrive which I will install with some camber bolts as well.

Unfortunately the rears don't fit as the mount on the RVR is larger than the EVO X's and is also tapered. I will be sending mine to have the RVR eyelet welded on the bilsteins.


Over all the shock stroke is reduced about 1-2inchs in the front and the rear.

I think the earlier EVO suspension would be a easier swap but I chose the X because it's weight was the closest to the RVR.


Hope this helps.

Edited by Connor, 29 May 2013 - 02:31 PM.

[FrontLever]

Glad someone has tried EVO X suspension, unfortunate that the rear eyelet didn't match, I had high hopes for that
I really need to get some eyelets welded onto the EVOXII stocks I have acquired, hoping it makes a noticeable improvement!

[leon r]

So my EVO8/9 KYB rear shock blew with only 6-7k miles in the van (plus another 20k miles on the EVO), so I am going 2G Eclipse Yellow Koni dampers. They should be a direct bolt on and Koni has very good realiability record! I will follow up with photos once they are installed.

[deepsouth]

So just a question, if the evo 8/9 shocks work, would that mean that aftermarket evo 8/9 shocks would theoretically work? Will this train of though translate to the evo x aftermarket shocks? Obviously there will be some modification needed but just wondered if it's going to work?

[Lozzle]

Hi all

 

I need new rear struts. The car has (from memory) pedders lowered springs all round and KYB front struts. Does anyone have the part number to hand for KYB rear struts? I have failed at searching if it's somewhere on this forum already.

 

 

Thanks

[leon r]

Deepsouth, that is what I did in the front:

A lot has changed since I originally upgraded my Summit’s suspension. First of all, stock EVO8/9 suspension has a punishing ride! So much so, that my kids named the Summit “the bumpy car”. This wouldn’t be so bad if it gave Summit amazing handling, but it didn’t.



In search of more front camber, I installed some EVO8/9 TEIN coilovers with camber plates! I had to do the same modification done on stock EVO8 strut conversion: welded on washers on the bottom). That improved front end ride quality and handling, plus it gave me an adjustable ride height (not to mention shedding off around 2-3 lbs per side!) However, rear end was still unbearably bumpy!

After some research, I determined that 2G DSM rear Koni shocks should work on the Summit, so I took $230 gamble… and it paid off!



Top and bottom: EVO8 modded for 1G DSM/Summit Middle: 2G Eclipse Koni (spring purch omitted)

The fact that you can just leave out the bottom spring purch on 2G Konis make this install even easier! Otherwise, you have to cut off DSM or EVO lower spring purch.



The fit was perfect! But this shock is shorter, so it will not work if you have stock height spring.

In the rear, I am using stiffer (7 passenger van) springs (450lbs/in vs. sock 400lbs/in), which have 1.5 coils removed. The reduced spring length, should bring the spring rate to around 600-650lbs/in. So help stiffen up the springs even more, I installed PRC rubber spacer inside the spring. I am not sure if it is helping much (or at all), because it is loose when van just sits there, so it needs around 1” of spring compression to truly engage the rubber spacer. I suspect that those only help only at extremes of suspension travel.

[Tali_Kasut]

Just refreshing older thread..hope u guys won't mind..

Being running on this suspension set for almost 2years on my chariot spacewagon nimbus..
Tein type super wagon hi low and soft hard adjustable.
Its originally for 2002 grandis n84w model.. front set almost plug n play to chariot's nuckle together with n84w pillowball top mount.. just the rear shocks need simple lower bolt bush swap to get it fit..the top mount just like the front..its direct fit..

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[deepsouth]

Just read your reply leon R thanks, I like the idea of keeping everything stock, the washer weld on will be easy as to mod the teins if I can find some.

Thanks for all your input and experimenting, it's greatly appreciated!

[TBOWGN]

Im after some EVO 7-9 Front suspension in South East QLD if anyone has a set lying around?

[leon r]

Something I noticed YEARS after installing EVO camber plates. The most I could get is -2* of camber (with camber plate "maxed out" in the negative direction. That seemed too little (I was expecting being around -3 or -4 degrees).

That is when I noticed that I had MORE space for adjustment in positive direction. That caused me to compare picture of EVO8 and RVR suspension... And they are reversed! So if you use stock top strut mounts (neutral) EVO, or if you can live with "only" -2 of camber, my current method works.

If you need more negative camber, you need to feather customize EVO suspension.



Now, notice how EVO7/8/9 camber plate orientation is opposite to us (and at a small angle, which is OK):

Edited by leon r, 12 August 2015 - 01:39 PM.

[TBOWGN]

Ive just bought a set of EVO X front and rear setups so, ill see how it goes fitting it all and if i can use anything for the rears.

Do you have any pics of these camber plates Leon?  the pics above dont seem to be working anymore. Cheers

[leon r]

I have added photos to my original post.

[jack be nimble]

Hey leon, if i had those gold cambertops i would spin them 1 bolt hole anti clockwise. Then grab all the caster that they afforded. The available camber isnt being used (because its positive) so it might as well be utilized as caster. Imo caster is better than camber.it allows the wheels to be upright for better braking and accelerating, but the caster turns into neg camber when you corner, and the more you turn the more neg camber there is. Also the inside wheel leans the correct way unlike neg camber that even more reduces tyre contact. My2c

Edited by eJackulator, 13 August 2015 - 06:22 PM.