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having trolled thru the entire site and looking at members builds, ive come up with a list of questions id like to get clarification on

What im planning to do is drop a vr4 motor into my CB GSR. I have a everything possible to get it going. I dont plan to go 4wd so im going to run the 61NA box.
Now, from what ive read, I can use all 61 mounts and the motor will drop straight in?
use 61 flywheel and clutch to mount to 61NA gearbox?
best to use the wiring loom from vr4? but once i use this wiring loom, i have to somehow connect it with the interior loom to get it all connected right? how has everyone tackled this?
do i use the 61 air con compressor so i can connect the lines to condensor easily as the vr4 one is all different looking.
is there anything else i should do in order to make it easier?
thanks for your time guys
cheers

also if there is someone whos done the conversion and is cbf to write it out, PM me your number, and i'll call you as i would like to get this done soon! thanks!

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Buy mine, already converted. will just need ac. All done and running.

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Buy mine, already converted. will just need ac. All done and running.



Or mine all running no A/C tho :)
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Or mine.No air cond either.

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hi all i have just bought a c63a with a v4r engine fitted problem is the starter dose not engage is this coz i have to have the g61 flywheel ? any help would be good thanks ps also after some trim bits thanks 



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Is it throwing out completely? What is the depth of throw?
What is the depth to the flywheel teeth?
I dont have the answers but they are out there.

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hi jack of all 

yes throws all the way out its not the depths its like the flywheel is to small in overall diam ? not sure on what gearbox i have its only front wheel drive ? 



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Well if they are a similar setup to the cc lancer, then you are correct in the different diameters. Awd and fwd have different diameter flywheels.
You may need a new fly wheel, or you can get the correct starter plate, that will relocate starter to closer to the flywheel.
Not sure about different starters, but I grabbed one for mine just in case.

Let one of the others confirm this is correct. It only what I read here or elsewhere.
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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Contact Clutz on here...he will know....and might have the trim pieces your after too.
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You may need a new fly wheel, or you can get the correct starter plate, that will relocate starter to closer to the flywheel.

 

it could be just late at night and my mind isn't processing properly but isn't the starter bolted to the bellhousing? How will changing the dustplate relocate the starter? 



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Doh, Fair call. I think thats a stubby your way.
So the starter plates match the gearbox. Change from/to a awd box, you need the correct matching starter plate.
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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Lol

Could he use a different flywheel? I'm not sure which one though.

Otherwise what Jack said wouldn't be a bad idea. If you can get hold of a VR4 gearbox, weld the centre diff and use that.

It'll have a higher load capacity than your fwd box.



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ok thank you all for your help i am going to grab a 4g61 engine as a backup EPA defect motor lol so will use flywheel from that and see where i go vr4 gearbox good idea where to find one ?? and what sort of dollars are they ?? am just looking at getting this on the road to start with then punch some cash into it once its all driving 



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Did you buy the white one in Adelaide??

 

Sounds like you have the wrong flywheel


Edited by CLuTZ, 08 June 2014 - 08:42 AM.


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I think its a fwd 61 flywheel, clutch, starter plate and starter bolted to a vr4 engine.
Is it the 61 starter as well? I assume it is.

How can it be wrong? It should all match up.
I dont think a awd flywheel will go in as its a fwd gearbox. And it will hit the bell housing.
Can you lock the starter throw out and measure with bluetack or something as to how far from the ring gear you are.
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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Sounds like you have the wrong flywheel


It seems there are 3 flywheels (I thought only 2) the awd wheel, the fwd wheel and the fwd turbo wheel. It seems the fwd turbo wheel is the largest but would mean you have a turbo fwd gearbox if you wheel is too small.
Is this right clutz?
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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My combos all with standard au 4g61 starter. Factory flywheel with vr4 box ,fidanza vr4 flywheel with vr4 box. Maybe I'm just lucky but I've never changed the starter?

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nah bought the blue one from gumtree at kurri kurri had number plates EVLGSR 

starters are all the same i done model check and vr4 g61 g63 all same starters 

so am going to try g61 flywheel can any one tell me how to check what gearbox i have checked numbers on google but not much luck 

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nah bought the blue one from gumtree at kurri kurri had number plates EVLGSR 

starters are all the same i done model check and vr4 g61 g63 all same starters 

so am going to try g61 flywheel can any one tell me how to check what gearbox i have checked numbers on google but not much luck 

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yeh checked them on google but cant find ????




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