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Think I need bigger flywheel have v4 flywheel and na g61 flywheel they are the same size 270mm so am after bigger one any one know if 97 sonata one is bigger and what size they are ??? Thanks

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What/where did you measure? I will measure mine for you.

So you have 106 teeth on both flywheels? I thought the na flywheel had 110 teeth.
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I'll count both my flywheels tomorrow, have both fwd and awd.

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My sonata 2.0 twincam circa 1995 has 110 teeth. It is 890mm circumference at out side of teeth.
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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I also have a fidanza 6 bolt awd flywheel. It has 106 teeth. It is 855mm around outside of teeth.
So my sonata wheel is 12 mm bigger diameter or will have its teeth 6mm closer to the starter.
Fwiw

Edited by jack of all, 23 June 2014 - 05:33 AM.

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thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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The awd wheel is diameter 272mm (855mm÷3.14)
And sonata is 283mm (890mm÷3.14).
You said your 2 wheels are 270mm (pretty close to 272) so the sonata one is bigger.

Go get a sonata one or make me a offer for mine and for solving all your problems.
Or like everyone of my 5307 posts so I have more rep points than jamo.

Edited by jack of all, 23 June 2014 - 06:16 AM.

4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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Got the tape measure out ran it over my two here.

Now i forgot, but my AWD one isnt VR4 or Evo, it's CB AWD Cyborg.

Both are 272mm dia with 106 teeth, only difference being the FWD has 200mm clutch plate and AWD being 225mm.

CB FWD on the left, and CB AWD on the right.

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I also checked out the starter motors to see if there is any difference between the two and there was not.

Just realizing this info may/may not be helpful.


Edited by Marc, 23 June 2014 - 07:14 AM.

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Thanks marc for having a look. I think you and speedy have the same wheels and I have the correct one for the op problem. I would say mine here has the 225mm clutch plate too (but I havent removed it to see)
It seems your cb awd wheel is functionally the same as a vr4 wheel or my fidanza will only fit a cyborg....
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ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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I'm not entirely sure on if the CB AWD one and the VR4 are interchangeable units??

 

But one thing i did notice when measuring them up is when they are both sitting on the bench, how different the placing of the ring gear was, but upon closer inspection and measuring from the back, there is only 1mm difference (better known as fuck all in metric), between the face of the crank, and the placement of the ring gear.

 

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The awd wheel is diameter 272mm (855mm÷3.14)
And sonata is 283mm (890mm÷3.14).
You said your 2 wheels are 270mm (pretty close to 272) so the sonata one is bigger.

Go get a sonata one or make me a offer for mine and for solving all your problems.
Or like everyone of my 5307 posts so I have more rep points than jamo.


Ok jack looks like your sonata flywheel mite fit 6 bolt how much you want and where abouts are you located
Also rep points ????

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I like rum and collect $100 bills.
Pm me offer. Located perth.
Maybe someone is wrecking one in gumtree near you

Edited by jack of all, 25 June 2014 - 12:22 AM.

4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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well no luck with sonata fly wheel so if i can get gsr gearbox would be good but hard to find one of them as well ???? 



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Mikey (evocpe) has a cb gsr flywheel for sale same dude.

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When I mentioned I was/am using a cb gsr box I'm talking the 1.6l dohc n/a fwd not gsr as in awd.

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ok i have a vr4 flywheel and a n/a G61 flywheel both to small ? so your saying i need a gsr awd flywheel ?

thanks i will contact evocpe



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No no the cb gsr is fwd use their flywheel that's what I'm using on my vr4 motor with a cb gsr 1.6l gearbox

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yes very true .but i have a hyundia gearbox bellhousing bigger so need sonata 

 

The awd wheel is diameter 272mm (855mm÷3.14)
And sonata is 283mm (890mm÷3.14). 
 

very confusion lol bought this car as project but is doing my head in  :fuuuuu: if anybody could help me out with a gearbox to suit VR4 motor and FWD ???



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Like I said dude, in my old cc lancer I used to use a sonata flywheel and a Cc glxi gearbox, gear ratios were awesome, but they were weak as piss.

With the cb used just the cb gsr flywheel and gearbox, ratios are a tad shorter (3650rpm@110kph) but with ratios being so short it just wheel spins.

With the excel I'm currently using the same setup as above, but I did get a lantra gearbox in it but I had issues with the shifter setup and just found it was easier to put the cb box back in to get it on the road asap. Will revisit this later as my shifter said I was selecting 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th but I was selecting 3rd, 4th, 5th and reverse. But I was also using a cb gsr flywheel as well.

But when I attempted to use the Hyundai box, I forgot to change that small plate between the box and the engine as found out the starter was in a slightly different location, changed that and made it all blend.

Hope this helps but it's hard to write a essay on a phone :P

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Hey Marc thanks for your info would be good to catch up n have a chat as am new to the lancer gsr cars

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Ok so how long will a standard NA cb gsr gearbox last ? Thinking of getting one just to get car on the road


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