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changed my cams and my engine started making this noise
so changed my lifters to meek lifters and changed my oil to motul turbolight
still making this noise
any help would be muchly appreciated
thanks
dave

Edited by rowlys_evo3, 01 March 2012 - 12:42 AM.

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dunno what noise you have got, but I imagine it's a top end tick or rattle.
Did cams spin over freely afterinstall before putting belt on?
I wonder if you have a big cam and getting coil bind on your valve springs or retainers hitting top of stems?
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its got 272/272 camtech's with bc springs and retainers
tried to upload a movie but its not working bah
really sounds like noisy lifters
93 GSR.. EVO 1 LSD GEARBOX AND DIFFS ,3" DUMP AND ZORST, EVO 3 4G63T CONVERSION
92 CC LANCER 1.8T CONVERSION... JUST FOR PARTS NOW
4G93T, 272'S, 60MM THROTTLE BODY, EVO 1 16G AND DRIVEN MANIFOLD.....BROKE AT POWERCRUISE MY BAD....

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Upload it to YouTube then embed the link in your post ?
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will do
93 GSR.. EVO 1 LSD GEARBOX AND DIFFS ,3" DUMP AND ZORST, EVO 3 4G63T CONVERSION
92 CC LANCER 1.8T CONVERSION... JUST FOR PARTS NOW
4G93T, 272'S, 60MM THROTTLE BODY, EVO 1 16G AND DRIVEN MANIFOLD.....BROKE AT POWERCRUISE MY BAD....

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did you bleed the lifters before you put them in?

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Where is the noise coming from
Run it without rocker cover on, and try to pinpoint the noise
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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did you bleed the lifters before you put them in?


thats another thing im worried about... the first lot of lifters i put in i didnt then i pulled them out and did
the second lot same thing
so another thing i was worried about was a bent valve but.... its got compression on all cylinders and is running
93 GSR.. EVO 1 LSD GEARBOX AND DIFFS ,3" DUMP AND ZORST, EVO 3 4G63T CONVERSION
92 CC LANCER 1.8T CONVERSION... JUST FOR PARTS NOW
4G93T, 272'S, 60MM THROTTLE BODY, EVO 1 16G AND DRIVEN MANIFOLD.....BROKE AT POWERCRUISE MY BAD....

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does it sound like a small cat being rattled in a 20 liter paint can?

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does it sound like a small cat being rattled in a 20 liter paint can?


no...but nice way to describe that noise lol
sounds like a tractor and metal slapping sort of
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my guess...bent exhaust valves

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take a listen
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92 CC LANCER 1.8T CONVERSION... JUST FOR PARTS NOW
4G93T, 272'S, 60MM THROTTLE BODY, EVO 1 16G AND DRIVEN MANIFOLD.....BROKE AT POWERCRUISE MY BAD....

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could be lifters that havent got pressure yet...but can you do a leak down test? work it around till each piston reaches the fire position and pump the cylinder with air from a compressor.....listen for air escaping in inlet and exhaust.

Edited by BMGTZ, 01 March 2012 - 11:38 AM.

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Black evo 1 full road rego and done properly/legally

I have heaps of parts...but never the one I need.

 

 


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no...but nice way to describe that noise lol
sounds like a tractor and metal slapping sort of


Lmfao. I have a vivid imagination, and I'm struggling to imagine the noise a cat in a 20l tin would make.. :)))
Brian, do you have a cat, I will bring the tin...
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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could be lifetrs that haveny got pressure yet...but can you do a leak down test? work it around till each piston reaches the fire position and pump the cylinder with air from a compressor.....listen for air escaping in inlet and exhaust.


ive never done one of those... but i did a compression test... pretty consistant numbers...
ill give it a go though
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92 CC LANCER 1.8T CONVERSION... JUST FOR PARTS NOW
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does it sound like a small cat being rattled in a 20 liter paint can?



Does it have to be a cat? Apparently we have a new kitten at home. Will the noise be the same???
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
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Lmfao. I have a vivid imagination, and I'm struggling to imagine the noise a cat in a 20l tin would make.. :)))
Brian, do you have a cat, I will bring the tin...



nah had one....didnt survive.:(

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I have heaps of parts...but never the one I need.

 

 


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Does it have to be a cat? Apparently we have a new kitten at home. Will the noise be the same???


kittens are softer than cats you wont get the same effect lol :D
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Does it have to be a cat? Apparently we have a new kitten at home. Will the noise be the same???



nah kittens just arent as robust as a small cat.....so it is hard to duplicated the noise for a period long enough to be sure it is the same noise. BUT it could be worth a try try so bring round :)

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kittens are softer than cats you wont get the same effect lol :D



the upside to using a kitten would be that it will be easier to get through the hole in the top of the can....;)


on a serious note....you can still get nice even compression results from slightly bent valves as it is a spike pressure you are measuring....not a constant.

but lets hope for bad lifter oiling first.

now back to cats..:P........did you know that you can play music with a cat?

a live cat wailing does bear some semblance to the sound of a violin which once has their strings made from cat gut

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I have heaps of parts...but never the one I need.

 

 



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