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CC GSR Turbo upgrade
Started by adamfrick, Feb 04 2013 12:19 PM
#1
Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:19 PM
Hi Guys
Ive tried looking in the search engine for this topic but for some reason it isnt working for me.
Basically just wanna know as im going to slap a Evo lll turbo on my car (94 cc gsr) what other parts need to go with this upgrade to get it running sweet.
Turbo
Evo lll Injectors
Uprgraded Fuel pump
Evo lll AFM?
Evo lll computer?
Cheers
Ive tried looking in the search engine for this topic but for some reason it isnt working for me.
Basically just wanna know as im going to slap a Evo lll turbo on my car (94 cc gsr) what other parts need to go with this upgrade to get it running sweet.
Turbo
Evo lll Injectors
Uprgraded Fuel pump
Evo lll AFM?
Evo lll computer?
Cheers
#2
Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:26 PM
you can run the evo tdo05 16g on it's own if you so choose. i myself am in the process of collecting evo bits to use with my td05
you'll want
evo or magna 609afm
evo intake pipe (the 609 afm has an oval outlet)
evo 510cc injectors
evo ecu
you can also move up to the te magna TB which is a good 5 or so mm larger than gsr
you'll want
evo or magna 609afm
evo intake pipe (the 609 afm has an oval outlet)
evo 510cc injectors
evo ecu
you can also move up to the te magna TB which is a good 5 or so mm larger than gsr
yes it's me KHUBNER
#3
Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:44 PM
#4
Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:12 PM
There is not enough room to run the evo intake pipe with standard airbox. I trimmed the filter and air box and intake pipe ribs to get them to fit. you need to find about 30mm.
I have removed these modified parts from my car if you need something.
I have removed these modified parts from my car if you need something.
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
#5
Posted 04 February 2013 - 03:20 PM
thanks mate ill keep it in mind. Think i should be right ive got a pretty handy mate that will be able to knock something up for me if i need it!.
Cheers
Cheers
#6
Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:55 AM
Yea, not hard. trim the ribs on the pipe where it hits the cas.
Trim the filter hard on the non sealing side. redo the clips top and bottom so the filter is clamped tight.
Take the airbox off its mounts. easy
Trim the filter hard on the non sealing side. redo the clips top and bottom so the filter is clamped tight.
Take the airbox off its mounts. easy
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
#7
Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:58 AM
Could just run the turbo, injectors and chip the ecu. pump later and intake later too
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4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
#8
Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:52 AM
Sorry to steal your post here.
So the evo ecu is plug and play?
And don't you need the down pipe to suit the td05?
So the evo ecu is plug and play?
And don't you need the down pipe to suit the td05?
#9
Posted 05 February 2013 - 01:53 AM
^ Yes and yes...
[qoute name="BMGTZ" post="331212" timestamp="1467451744"]I don't know anything ...
Trust in the master of taxis.... He will set you straight[/quote]
Trust in the master of taxis.... He will set you straight[/quote]
#10
Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:37 AM
Isn't it also a good idea to chip the evo ecu when running on a gsr motor. Or is it chip the gsr ecu when running evo parts?
I'm actually contemplating selling my vr4 turbo kit. Was going to put it on my cb with a galant 2L
Td0516g
4g63 mani
Dump pipe
2.5" exhaust (up to fuel tank)
Lotus twin tip muffler
Vr4 cooler pipes,
vr4 throttle body,
Vr4 cooler
Vr4 injectors
Vr4 ecu
Vr4 MAF
Vr4 intake pipe
Vr4 cams
Metal bov
Stock boost control solenoid
Fuel pressure solenoid
I also have another td05 16g with a screamer pipe (also has a 20g comp housing and wheel to go with it to upgrade if you like) has 17psi actuator, brand new exhaust housing
Evo3 injectors
A spare non turbo 2L
And a pair of microtech ecu's
I know alot of the vr4 stuff is useless to you but if any of that stuff you need let me know and see where we go
I'm actually contemplating selling my vr4 turbo kit. Was going to put it on my cb with a galant 2L
Td0516g
4g63 mani
Dump pipe
2.5" exhaust (up to fuel tank)
Lotus twin tip muffler
Vr4 cooler pipes,
vr4 throttle body,
Vr4 cooler
Vr4 injectors
Vr4 ecu
Vr4 MAF
Vr4 intake pipe
Vr4 cams
Metal bov
Stock boost control solenoid
Fuel pressure solenoid
I also have another td05 16g with a screamer pipe (also has a 20g comp housing and wheel to go with it to upgrade if you like) has 17psi actuator, brand new exhaust housing
Evo3 injectors
A spare non turbo 2L
And a pair of microtech ecu's
I know alot of the vr4 stuff is useless to you but if any of that stuff you need let me know and see where we go
Edited by Gianni, 06 February 2013 - 01:12 AM.
Gianni
#11
Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:32 AM
I thought people use to say the TD05 16G is too big for the 1.8L 4G93T, need more rpm, bit lag-ish?
Few years back I remember people suggesting the smaller VR4 turbo (Forgotten number, TD05 14B?) IRRC?
http://www.vfaq.net/...mods/10faq.html
Few years back I remember people suggesting the smaller VR4 turbo (Forgotten number, TD05 14B?) IRRC?
http://www.vfaq.net/...mods/10faq.html
Mitsubishi - Engineered to Excite
#12
Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:53 AM
Anything bigger, piping, turbo, cooler ect will increase lag due to large volume to fill the system.
But also a smaller motor generally revs higher than a larger. A 1.8 should rev slightly higher than a 2L anyways
Or de-stroke a 2L to 1.8 rev it's tits off. Bwahaha.
Another option could be a boost controller
But also a smaller motor generally revs higher than a larger. A 1.8 should rev slightly higher than a 2L anyways
Or de-stroke a 2L to 1.8 rev it's tits off. Bwahaha.
Another option could be a boost controller
Gianni
#13
Posted 05 February 2013 - 12:20 PM
Isn't it also a good idea to chip the evo ecu when running on a gsr motor. Or is it chip the gsr ecu when running evo parts?
doesn't matter, just chip the one you have. i would rather have a chipped gsr ecu than a stock evo ecu on a gsr with evo bolt ons
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
#14
Posted 05 February 2013 - 09:24 PM
It not so much the td05hl (16g) is to big its that the ar ratio on the turbine is all to wide. The td05h (14b) has a tighter ar to help it spool faster. Which make it all more ideal however I think with a good aftermarket manifold some of this disadvantage can be reduced. I currently run a td05 16g and tbh it's no that much slower to spool. And come on much smother than the stock td04h 13t. It also has a lot more cfm for when you up the boost. Can easily run up to and above 20 pound on a 16g on a 93t
yes it's me KHUBNER
#15
Posted 05 February 2013 - 10:15 PM
doesn't matter, just chip the one you have. i would rather have a chipped gsr ecu than a stock evo ecu on a gsr with evo bolt ons
Agreed
Gianni
#16
Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:53 AM
Would it be possible to put a 16g compressor wheel on a 14b char and turbine?
yes it's me KHUBNER
#17
Posted 06 February 2013 - 01:03 AM
Yeah. You need the comp wheel and matching housing (or port your housing to match. You could even use the 20g wheel and comp housing on the 14b if you wanted to.
It's still a td05 so rear end is the sane (ports can be different) also 14b's also have a smaller comp housing inlet so you'll still have to deal with the smaller intake restriction.
But if your looking for a 16g, I have one fs already. I added more details on it up top pretty much brand new rear housing (with ports) 17psi actuator as well
It's still a td05 so rear end is the sane (ports can be different) also 14b's also have a smaller comp housing inlet so you'll still have to deal with the smaller intake restriction.
But if your looking for a 16g, I have one fs already. I added more details on it up top pretty much brand new rear housing (with ports) 17psi actuator as well
Edited by Gianni, 06 February 2013 - 01:05 AM.
Gianni
#18
Posted 06 February 2013 - 02:48 AM
Nah g I've got a 16g already the 14b has a 6cm2 turbine housing on the exhaust where the 16g has a 7cm2 also the 14b has a tighter ar in the turbine side meaning slightly faster spool quicker to bring the compressor into its efficiency range. What I'd do is mount the 16g compressor onto a 14b's turbine much like the guys do with 20g's onto 16's to keep that tighter turbine housing
yes it's me KHUBNER
#19
Posted 06 February 2013 - 05:30 AM
Nothing like a tight turbine to get you through
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
thanks for parts and help: BMGTZ, EVOCPE, cwolf, Benozi, Jamo-GSR, 1JUM2NV, RXVII..much appreciated, cheers guys.
Aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines. —Enzo Ferrari
REMEMBER: you cant polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter.
#20
Posted 06 February 2013 - 07:59 AM
yeo can be the differance between a lag monster and and punchy street ride might keep an eye out for a vr4 14b to molest
best option for the 4g93 guys is to start with a td05h 14b (with th 6cm^2 turbine housing) which is the same size as the stock td04l. and then upgrade the compressor housing and wheel to allow for similar flow of a true 16g.
best option for the 4g93 guys is to start with a td05h 14b (with th 6cm^2 turbine housing) which is the same size as the stock td04l. and then upgrade the compressor housing and wheel to allow for similar flow of a true 16g.
Edited by khubner1, 06 February 2013 - 08:10 AM.
yes it's me KHUBNER
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