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Hey guys

My GSR is now a dedicated track car and as the car is stripped down due to broken gearbox. I was wondering if anyone has removed or converted there power steering to manual or thinking of doing it.

My main concern is how hard the steering would be with 235+ semis and under hard acceleration is it would be all over the place.

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A track car will cook its steer fluid so its working pretty hard.
Imo you will struggle to drive it. Grippy 235s plus a heap of castor (if you can get it) will all make power steer obligatory.
Power steer delete for drag cars only

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Try driving one with the belt broken. Trust me you want that power steering there! and with the tyres you described even more so! If I were you I would be looking at putting in a better cooler for the system though.

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Just go to the gym..

Build those guns.

I run an electric pump. Do lancers come out non ps?

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It easier to turn when the rack has no oil and looped hoses. I ran no p/s in my gsr, I loved it at speed it felt way more stable, it was a bit heavy on slow hair pins. That was on 225/50/16 semis, the problem with the lancer manual racks is that its about 100 turns lock to lock.
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I thought about it but left it in. You would need a gl lancer rack. Are you also getting rid of the abs? I have done 100 km on the national track at qr and didn't boil the fluid.

How did you get 235 semis under the rear guards?

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Try driving one with the belt broken. Trust me you want that power steering there! and with the tyres you described even more so! If I were you I would be looking at putting in a better cooler for the system though.


if you have a manual trans see if your radiator has lines for cooling auto trans fluid and use that

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A track car will cook its steer fluid so its working pretty hard.
Imo you will struggle to drive it. Grippy 235s plus a heap of castor (if you can get it) will all make power steer obligatory.
Power steer delete for drag cars only


The other option was to put a small oil cooler in the front to help it keep cool

Just go to the gym..

Build those guns.

I run an electric pump. Do lancers come out non ps?


Yeah they do but it's a million turns lock to lock

It easier to turn when the rack has no oil and looped hoses. I ran no p/s in my gsr, I loved it at speed it felt way more stable, it was a bit heavy on slow hair pins. That was on 225/50/16 semis, the problem with the lancer manual racks is that its about 100 turns lock to lock.


So it runs dry?

I thought about it but left it in. You would need a gl lancer rack. Are you also getting rid of the abs? I have done 100 km on the national track at qr and didn't boil the fluid.

How did you get 235 semis under the rear guards?


Abs is long gone, as for 235's lot of massaging and probably bolt on flares till I can afford dougmo's widebody

if you have a manual trans see if your radiator has lines for cooling auto trans fluid and use that


Nah I got aftermarket radiator,

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I found this on the mivec nz forum

http://www.mivec.co....php?f=30&t=7623


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Do you have the 235s on the rear yet?

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Nah I got aftermarket radiator,


so do i

i must be lucky i've still got a trans cooler in mine not that it gets used

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I found this on the mivec nz forum

http://www.mivec.co....php?f=30&t=7623


Thats a interesting read.
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Do you have the 235s on the rear yet?


Sorry I meant to say I want to run 235+ tires. Currently have 225/45/16 on 16x8 +30

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I am about to embark on this and without totally butchering the rears I am going to modify the rear trailing arm so that I can go in. I even tried to fit a 215 Dunlop slick on the car and it would fit between the rear lip on the guard and the rear trailing arm.

I am trying to keep the rears as standard as possible in the event that I want to run the car at Targa at some point so no flares.

I currently run a 215/45/17 DZ03G and I can't get a wider semi slick on. I want 235's as they are cheaper.

When you manage to achieve it I would be interested to see how you go. I assume you are going to run a 15mm+ spacer on the front? With a 235 RE55 on the front it was hitting my coilovers on standard EVO VI wheels.

Edited by Hypo, 02 May 2013 - 10:53 AM.


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the problem with the lancer manual racks is that its about 100 turns lock to lock.

Assuming that's not an issue where could I find a manual RHD rack for sale that will fit the Evo 123?



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As above. Gl lancer. Any base model cc lancer without power steering.
You might just like to convert your power rack or get a spare to mod
4g93t jumbuck conversion. PRANGED 18/3/12, CHECK MY MEMBER RIDES Page 11. no serious human injuries.
ON THE ENGINE STAND. g4cs 2.4l + Gt35r. PLUS: auto conversion + Awd coming.
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I'd keep the power steering if it was me.


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As above. Gl lancer. Any base model cc lancer without power steering.
You might just like to convert your power rack or get a spare to mod

Can you provide the specific models and years that have the RHD manual racks that bolt up to the Evo subframe? Thanks



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these

http://www.carsales....9/?Cr=5&sdmvc=1

GENUINE CE9A evo2 gsr track car
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My daily has no PS and I love it. Only 175 wide though.


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|Coilovers|Swaybars|VR-4 2pot Calipers|TP rears|Evo3 Master/Booster|Evo 3 front bar|Side Skirts|Rear Lip|


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