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[RicKii``]

has anyone got an image of a GSR/EVO with 15s lowered? Ive lowered my car so the sideskirts are at equal height front and back but the front guard wheel gap is still huge compared to the rear. thats just how they are right? there wouldnt be a way to lower the car so the guard gaps are same front and back but also keep the car level?
cheers in advance for the help

[Missile]

It is simply because Mitsubishi engineers wanted that way.
Although this image doesn't give guard height references (homologation papers might), it does illustrate that front guard clearance is greater than rear.
I wouldn't worry about your quest, you will end using blocks/spacers etc. in which you will most likely end under performing that vehicle.

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[Velocity Racing]

because its designed as a gravel rally car
The front has more suspension travel, and as a result the guards are larger. If you were to adjust the ride height to drop the front down more that would start to play with the dynamics and not in a good way. You would be essentially be raising the rear ride height vs the front,(changing the rake), which will increase oversteer.

Edited by Velocity Racing, 02 May 2013 - 06:35 AM.

[Adrian]

Think about your question for a minute and think. What happens at the front that doesn't at the rear??......... Steering! Manufacturers need to design cars so that with the suspension under full compression the tyres shouldn't come into contact with the body of the car. Since your front wheels need to turn as well then the front end needs more clearance. Vehicle designers often now on even basic models flare the front guards out and are able to close this gap somewhat. This aids aerodynamics and fuel efficiency and also cosmetically enhances the car in most cases

[Adrian]

because its designed as a gravel rally car
The front has more suspension travel, and as a result the guards are larger. If you were to adjust the ride height to drop the front down more that would start to play with the dynamics and not in a good way. You would be essentially be raising the rear ride height vs the front,(changing the rake), which will increase oversteer.

I'd rather have a car with a tendency to oversteer that a car with under steer lol

[Evo-00x]

I'd rather have a car with a tendency to oversteer that a car with under steer lol

Amen to that!

[jack be nimble]

Till you come into a corner a touch hot and back off, and your car snap oversteers straight into the gutter. (Or oncoming traffic)
Will leave you sitting there with a blank look on your face wondering how did you just destroy 2 tyres and rims.

[Adrian]

Till you come into a corner a touch hot and back off, and your car snap oversteers straight into the gutter. (Or oncoming traffic)
Will leave you sitting there with a blank look on your face wondering how did you just destroy 2 tyres and rims.

No offence meant here jack but that's why we have speed limits and road laws. If u wana drive like that take it to the track. Full stop. mistakes like that are from inexperienced drivers in overpowered cars that make us all look like a bunch of fuckwits and sums up why the cops pick on us

[DOUGMO]

Till you come into a corner a touch hot and back off, slip it into 2nd and floor it out laying 4 big straps up the road

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note: on the track of course

[EVL20T]

The track guys, he means the track lol

[Geo&Kez]

Till you come into a corner a touch hot and back off, and your car snap oversteers straight into the gutter..

Just like a golf XR5 Focus

[GSRWRC]

Thankfully "HellaFlush" wasn't a consideration when designing a Group A/N rally car

[BMGTZ]

perhaps what jack was refering to was the accident that a fella had in his jumbuck......

[syco_rvr]

in relation to the 4 straps up the road, nothing better than the look on the face of nissan owners when my RVR had the locked viscous coupling and was rear wheels were skipping when doing a u-turn at a local car meet lol

[yeeehah]

you could get new lower control arms made up and have them moved forward which would give you more caster adjustment, but thats a bit hardcore for a street setup!
oh and i assume you mean the gap between tyre and front bar

Edited by yeeehah, 19 May 2013 - 06:54 AM.

[DOUGMO]

or just buy racefab ones off the shelf

[evo-gsr]

you could get new lower control arms made up and have them moved forward which would give you more caster adjustment, but thats a bit hardcore for a street setup!
oh and i assume you mean the gap between tyre and front bar

No Ash...he's talking about the gap between the top of the tyre and the lip of the guard. Thats why hes asking about lowering it.

Edited by evo-gsr, 19 May 2013 - 10:51 AM.

[yeeehah]

No Ash...he's talking about the gap between the top of the tyre and the lip of the guard. Thats we hes asking about lowering it.

apologies, proly helps to actually read the thread...

[jack be nimble]

The assclown that broke mine wrecked all 4 rims on the box kerb...

Get rid of the 15s, get some rake into it and come down on the front.
You dont need it too level. Needs a wedge shape for better aero