Hi guys.
Just wondering the power capabilities of a standard gsr box before things start to break. I'm about to give the box a freshen up and will be looking at 350 to 380 kw. Just some previous experience from other members would be great.
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How strong is a gsr box
Started by 1995 evogsr, May 09 2013 11:29 AM
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Posted 09 May 2013 - 11:29 AM
#2
Posted 09 May 2013 - 01:01 PM
couple guys i know with newer model evos have had a rebuilt around that power. not sure how strong the gsr ones are but id say they could handle a fairbit of power but evo box would prob be strong or maybe a jap spec gsr box?
#3
Posted 10 May 2013 - 02:52 AM
cant speak out of experience so dont know How good info i can give but talkin to my mate he was saying they dont have the double synchro's on 1st an 2nd or is it 2nd and 3rd, i think you'll find the input shaft will let go, and my mate has problems with 4th ring gear, im sure someone will correct me,
also a point to note it was with 400 atw he kept breaking Evo boxes so he dropped it down to i think 360 and it seems to last a bit better
also a point to note it was with 400 atw he kept breaking Evo boxes so he dropped it down to i think 360 and it seems to last a bit better
#4
Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:47 AM
They say a 2.3 has enough grunt to strip the teeth off 4th gear. So maybe 275kw atw?
But that is all the torque from the stroker. A 2.0 might need 300kw to do the same damage.
But in saying that, a dickhead driving style will destroy a box very quickly.
Rev limiter drops, flat changes, bad launches, etc will kill it with a stock engine.
But that is all the torque from the stroker. A 2.0 might need 300kw to do the same damage.
But in saying that, a dickhead driving style will destroy a box very quickly.
Rev limiter drops, flat changes, bad launches, etc will kill it with a stock engine.
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#5
Posted 10 May 2013 - 04:39 AM
I'm running a 2.3 the car was making 315 kw on pump. It will be going in for a 85 tune once I put the gearbox back in so I'm thinking I should strengthen the box while I have it out of the car
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 06:43 AM
Get an EVO 2 gearbox and use the GSR crown to change it to 3.545
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#10
Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:32 PM
Yeah read that thread evl basically says newcatle or meek. Spoke to Chris at meek yesterday wanted between $2500 to $2700 for a rebuild and a center lsd. Does that sound about right?
#11
Posted 10 May 2013 - 12:54 PM
the centre lsd would almost be half of that in cost
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:06 PM
what brand is the centre lsd?
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 10:24 PM
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Posted 10 May 2013 - 11:27 PM
My gearbox was built by chris I think he did a good job but in saying that I stripped 4th gear last year at a trackday. I think it came down to the gear strength rather then person who built it. I'm running a 2.3 with 360kw.
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Posted 11 May 2013 - 12:04 PM
Thanks pad. Is that a gsr box or evo 2 or 3 box? How far did you go with the rebuild just bearing, syncros etc etc etc or did you throw in a lsd to?
#16
Posted 11 May 2013 - 11:39 PM
It's a GSR box with vr4 gear set, evo selector forks, new 1st-2nd gear and syncros and cusco front diff.
#17
Posted 12 May 2013 - 12:19 AM
In a nutshell the gearset itself is just as strong as any other W5M33. The non LSD GSR boxes have lightweight synchros and weaker selectors.
As mentioned; 4th gear is an issue once you go over 300kW.
As mentioned; 4th gear is an issue once you go over 300kW.
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