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yes. grab a few simple electrical items.
1 thermostatic switch (can be found in carby model cc lancers porribly even some autos)
2 a normally open relay
3 some wire capable of around 20A
4 a fuse

find a place to thread the thermostatic switch into (you can get radiators that have a bung for it in them my replacement from red devil had a place for it.)
then run from a constant 12v power (battery positive)
through a fuse down to the fan splice into current wireing do not cut
run a wire from earth (body chassis) and run it to one pin on the thermostatic switch from the other pin go to the relay trigger circuit and then out to switched 12v power (ign switch power live only while ign on)
make another earth and run that from the fan to the triggered circuit on the relay and ground it. and your done

or if you are more comfortable playing inside the loom/under the fuse box
get a thermostatic switch
earth one side and tap into the green wire with black trace in the front/headlight loom
this would be best found under the fuse/relay box but does travel all the way down close to the fan loom plug

and the final way is to find a cc lancer coupe that has the 3 pin radiator fan std in the headlight/front loomand take both halves of the plug to use in your car you will still need the thermostatic switch that will need to be earthed (can use the black wire on the 3 pin plug)

viola you have automated thermo fans independent of ecu

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I thought I had a screwed up thermo switch or rad fan I plugged a aus 93t ecu and didn't know the fan doesn't come on alone until my car over heated is there any solution to this besides changing ecu's or constantly driving with aircon on?


As previously suggested..speak to Chris Meek...he will advise you of the best way around this.
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Thanks for the help guys im going to see chirs sometime this week so I will let you know how it goes

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yes. grab a few simple electrical items.
1 thermostatic switch (can be found in carby model cc lancers porribly even some autos)
2 a normally open relay
3 some wire capable of around 20A
4 a fuse

find a place to thread the thermostatic switch into (you can get radiators that have a bung for it in them my replacement from red devil had a place for it.)
then run from a constant 12v power (battery positive)
through a fuse down to the fan splice into current wireing do not cut
run a wire from earth (body chassis) and run it to one pin on the thermostatic switch from the other pin go to the relay trigger circuit and then out to switched 12v power (ign switch power live only while ign on)
make another earth and run that from the fan to the triggered circuit on the relay and ground it. and your done

or if you are more comfortable playing inside the loom/under the fuse box
get a thermostatic switch
earth one side and tap into the green wire with black trace in the front/headlight loom
this would be best found under the fuse/relay box but does travel all the way down close to the fan loom plug

and the final way is to find a cc lancer coupe that has the 3 pin radiator fan std in the headlight/front loomand take both halves of the plug to use in your car you will still need the thermostatic switch that will need to be earthed (can use the black wire on the 3 pin plug)

viola you have automated thermo fans independent of ecu

you sound like the electrical MacGyver would a e3 ecu fix this? would be easier lol

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Or you just bridge the pins for the thermo switch, we did that in my mates old GSR running an EVO ecu, just means the fan stays on all the time when the car is running, been like this for 4 years and no problems
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I just pulled the cover on a spare relay and bent it so it was shut.
Chuck that in the fan relay spot and all good. Fan runs when keyed on and no changes
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Wouldn't that make the car run too cool but?
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Nah the car stays on half temp allday/everyday
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Wouldn't that make the car run too cool but?


thermostat takes care of that. it just opens and closes more often

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How about a td05 on a 4g93 high comp has anyone done this before? I'm about to Wack on maybe during the week a skyline turbo looks all about the same size has anyone tried it ? Not
Cared about blowing the engine as im sitting on 14-16 psi already lol

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Sounds fun while it lasts... woo hoo
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get a fire extinguisher and go for it.
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BRIAN
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I did the TD05 swap a few years ago on my gsr. Stock engine btw. Stock ecu

Some important things as already mentioned by the other tuners such as

1. Porting the manifold (GSR )remove the little ring that's there on the manifold. ( I think it's called a fire ring not sure)
2. You need the oil lines customized for the turbo. ( i never connected the water lines and turbo was fine ).
3. Upgrade injectors to evo 3 (510cc).
4. Dump pipe doesn't line up with the gsr exhaust so some customizing there as well ( stock gsr exhaust piping can work no need to upgrade )
5. AFM upgrade to E3
6. Increase fuel pressure depending on your management or piggy back ecu ( I ran a safc neo ,made 200hp and 200tq at 14psi)
7. Oil filter relocator. Or slim filter since the dump pipe is ridiculously close to the filter.

Please note the heat generated by the TD05 turbo dump will damage the air condition compressor in a few months. Since its very close to the compressor. Take out the compressor if you don't use the air con .


Good luck. It's a cheap upgrade but don't push the 93t too much the connecting rods are very weak. Stay below 15psi.

Edited by GsrGod, 03 September 2013 - 02:15 AM.

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Hey sorry if Im wrong but shouldn't the 93t on the gsr have 141kw stock which is 189 hp and with all the mods plus the bigger turbo you only got 11 more hp so sorry if im wrong it just sounds a little low on hp

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The 140kw/187hp is at the flywheel, which will be around 105kw/140hp at the wheels due to the drivetrain loss
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