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[leadfoot]

It's ok jack thouse if us that have built fwd monsters or turned them into awd beasts are all brothers from other mothera

[GSR 95T]

@ jack.

Don't worrie man, you got plenty of brothers around here dude !!!

@ khubner1

I didn't realize it was that exclusive !! I thought all us 4g guys were brothers from other mothers.?

[EVL20T]

See if these help you

 

 

B-66

 

B-67

 

B-68

 

B-69

 

B-70

 

B-71
 

[evo-gsr]

It's ok jack thouse if us that have built fwd monsters or turned them into awd beasts are all brothers from other mothera

Translation? Anyone ?? 

 

,   . Help heaps.

[leadfoot]

damn mobile phone

It's ok jack those if us that have built fwd monsters or turned them into awd beasts are all brothers from other mothers. (make alil more sense now?)

 

@94 gsr

we are are but the conversion guys share an extra special bond (we are all absolutely bonkers)

[evo-gsr]

Yeah bit better just needs some , . to make it perfect.  And the if changed to of. 

[BMGTZ]

I havent even got a brother. Sniff.

if you get a haircut and shave.....you can call me brother. Might as well since I called you some other stuff. then again it not be brother you call me

[GSR 95T]

See if these help you

Loom.jpg

B-66 B66.jpg

B-67 B67.jpg

B-68 B68.jpg

B-69 B69.jpg

B-70 B70.jpg

B-71 B71.jpg

Cheers for taking the time to take those pix hay, Much appreciated... But that harness is different again LOL ....

Still can't find any info on that p/n either....


@EVO-00X

Ok finally got a chance late this arvo to spend a few hours on these harnesses.. Got the plugs for the dash cluster sorted now...
But still need some help on them plugs on the rear of the junction block...

So I've attached a pic of one of the two wires I need to sort out.. The pic is of your harness plugged into my spare evo 3 junction block.. This wire on your harness is a red with green strip wire and its the wire that comes from the door open buttons from each door... each door has a wire that all join together just beside the drivers seat then a single wire runs from there up to the junction block... My original GSR harness has this same wire setup and it looks like the harness in the pix above has it also...

But my EVO 3 harness has all 4 wires from the doors that gather up near the drivers seat but then there's no wire from there to the junction block.... The pin where this wire is suppose to go in connector B-68 has a red wire with white strip plugged into it.. This red with white strip wire runs to the connector that boot harness plugs into... I don't have a clue what this wire does or what it go's to in the boot harness as I don't yet have an EVO 3 boot harness...


So I unplugged this red with white wire from connector B-68 and plugged in a temp wire and ran it to where the 4 door wires join beside the seat and now my roof light works and also the door open light on the dash works.... But this doesn't sort out the red with white strip wire as neither your harness or the one in the pix above have a red/white wire in any of the connectors in the rear of the junctions block... But there also not evo 3 harnesses...

So yeah, what I'd like to know when you get a chance is :

1, I've marked the wire in the pic below on connector B-68. Is the wire in this same position on your genuine EVO 3 harness in your car a red with green strip wire or a red with white strip wire ??

2, if the answer to the above question is red with green, then which connector and pin does the red with white strip wire goto on the rear of the junction block ?

Thanks again Hay....

Edited by 94 GSR, 27 January 2014 - 05:49 PM.

[jack be nimble]

So your red/white runs straight to the boot.
And your door triggers gather at the drivers seat but dontrun forward (so they run back?)
So at the boot connector, bridge from the door wire to the red/white wire and interior lights should work.
Sort out the boot harness when you get one

[GSR 95T]

Yep got a heap of photos Andy I've drawn up ruff looking diagrams on the following... (the diagrams will be redone once I'm finished and have tested everything.. Only things not tested so far is the stuff that connects to the boot harness as Im still trying to find one..)

* Making a evo3 motor harness work as a 100% plug an play swap in a GSR so everything works as factory.. And looks factory too..

* And also on what needs to be changed and added when your using complete EVO 3 wiring in a GSR but retaining the 93 motor with a 93 motor harness.. And also retaining the GSR's 240kmh dash cluster.

And yeah the red/white wire runs from the pin in conector B-68 straight to the connector under the rear seat for the boot harness...

And yeah the red/green wire doesn't run forward but it looks like its had a wire cut where the wires are all crimped together but I'm not 100% sure. The wire does run back to the rear connector also but that's because the wires for the rear door open buttons are parts of the boot harness... I'm not 100% if an EVO 3 has a boot light as I've never seen one in real life but Id be supprized if it didn't.

I'm hoping the pix from EVO-00X will sort this out for me. If I could find a boot harness so I could trace where these wires run and terminate at I'm sure I could work it out but with out that part of the harness I'm stuck... 8(

[GSR 95T]

Hay Rob,

Your EVO1 harness is on its way back... Sent it today... Thanks again for that, greatly appreciated...

[Evo-00x]

Ah cool thanks mate. Yeah I havent been able to get time to look at my E3 harness for you yet. Spent all day in the laundry painting it after the recent renos I did. Ive got another days worth of work in there and then Im done. Will keep the Mrs happy and I can get back to doing car shit again lol

[GSR 95T]

As they say.. happy wife, happy life !! LOL...

No worries hay, Talk soon.

[GSR 95T]

Ok my E3 A/C harness arrived yesterday...

And of cause I now have a few more questions....

This one is sorted !! 1, In this pic below.. Is this the wire that go's to the A/C compressor on the 63 ???


This one is sorted !! 2, What does this plug go to ?? It's a 6 pin connector but it has only 1 wire going to it.. On my GSR's original wiring it was something to do with the A/C but it had more wires coming out of it that went it the A/C harness..

Edited by 94 GSR, 13 February 2014 - 03:11 PM.

[EVL20T]

Yes that goes to the compressor

 

Ive never seen that bottom plug before

[leadfoot]

neither have i

[GSR 95T]

Yes that goes to the compressor

Ive never seen that bottom plug before

1, Yeah thought so.... Thanks for that...

2, It's in the motor harness.. From what I've seen in pix of engine bays of evo 3's it looks like it doesn't get used an just hangs down against the fire wall... Just not 100%. When I trace the wire its pin 3 on the ecu (radiator fan) and it also go's to the connector below the passenger side headlight where the other end of the A/C harness plugs in... GSR's also have this connector with the single wire but on a GSR the connector has extra wires in it... (pix below)..

My gsr loom has that plug with a single green wire on it.
Dunno anything else about it as I have no aircon loom now and nothing plugged into it

Does your harness have extra wires in it ?? Or have they been removed.. My original GSR harness had extra wires in this connector with another connector on the end of them which is where the A/C harness plugs in... The EVO harness has only the one wire and the rest of the holes are plugged with little grommets. (See pix below)

This is a pic of a GSR harness.. As you can see connector 1 has extra wires in it.. The extra wires go to connector 2 which is where the A/C harness plugs in... Connector 1 plugs into connector 3


This pic just shows how it go's together


This pic is of the EVO 3 harness. Connector 1 is the one in question and has only the single wire.. Connector 2 is where the A/C harness plugs in.. Connector 2 in this pic is the same connector as connector 3 in the other pix but on the EVO harness this connector has two extra wires in it...


So yeah I dont think the single wire connector gets used but I'm just trying to find out 100%..

Edited by 94 GSR, 13 February 2014 - 03:12 PM.

[Evo-00x]

As you pointed out, the pin-out diagram shows pin #3 on he ECU is a green wire with black trace and for a radiator fan relay (low A/C).

Sort of makes sense as its connected to the loom between the A/C and fan relay box next to the power steering reservoir. 

That wire must trigger the radiator fan when aircon is on low load? Im not too clued up on the way aircon functions sorry.

Also remember, EVO's have different wiring that runs along near the AFM chassis rail to the radiator fan.

GSR's have extra wiring (about 4 or 5 wires), a couple due to a temperature sensor in the bottom of the GSR radiator and the way GSR's switch the radiator fan on compared to Evos. 

Edited by EVO-00X, 05 February 2014 - 07:43 AM.

[GSR 95T]

Ok so I've worked out what go's in the plug in the first pic in the first post.. (Thanks Rory)

It's this little silver temp sensor that go's under the white air distribution box, the one in the centre of the car with the heater core in it..

Here's a pic..


Now I just have to find one !!.....

Edited by 94 GSR, 13 February 2014 - 03:44 PM.

[EVL20T]

Pretty sure its part number MR233485

 

If so then look for an FTO, they use the same sensor and plug