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[Benzo4gT]

I'm going to be putting in my (Aldo) auto box soon and have a cooling dilemma waiting to happen with my build. I am going to use a cc lancer A/C condenser as the cooler which is fine, but..........my  RVR build runs a W/A setup as some have seen already, this uses (you guessed it) a cc lancer A/C condenser as the radiator, which means the car has, from front to back, the W/A rad.,  A/C condenser, and then the radiator. I have made skirts for these so all the air gets channelled through them.

I fabricated all this up to suit an SG/SSG so it fits behind the std bumper and nudge/bull bar which was done on the (now) parts car.

 

The car all this is going into is my white HSG, which has a remote filter in the left wheel arch as well as an engine oil cooler in between the A/C condenser and radiator. The existing std front mount intercooler when removed will give me room to fit a trans cooler and W/A radiator. 

Which means it will be - W/A rad->A/C condenser->engine oil cooler->trans cooler->radiator This concerns me! It was quite a task to fit the W/A radiator in the SG, I had to really thin things, the radiator support was made from a front window actuator channel to save space so I could fit it all together. I'm not sure it will all fit even behind the HSG bar, and to make it even more of a challenge I plan to fit the SG front on to it!

In traffic with a re-stalled converter and the A/C on in the QLD summer heat I can envision an overheating issue.

 

I want to keep the cc lancer A/C condenser as the trans cooler because it's huge and will do the job well, but adding it between the other 3 seems redundant as the heat in the air getting to it will not make it as efficient and I may as well have a smaller cooler in the front wheel arch, which I think is too small plus the left arch has the remote oil filter in it, and the right arch is where I have my air filter.

 

I am trying to work out a plan for mounting it under the rear of the car where the spare tyre would go on the early 4-stud RVR models, I'd have to make some ducts and satisfy myself that it's safe from stones etc. plus thermo fan, sensor and maybe a PWM.................unless another option works that will put my mind at ease regarding trans heat build up.

 

 

 

What coolers do you guys with Aldo boxes and re-stalled/hi-stall converters run, and have you got a temp gauge on them? Any heat issues when stalling up to full boost on the line? What has the filter/oil looked and smelled like after an oil change?

 

[jack be nimble]

You could top mount it under the bonnet scoop.

[Benzo4gT]

I don't have a scooped bonnet, and I don't really want to run one. It would get in the way of all the other parts anyway, there is very little room under the bonnet with all the piping and the W/A cooler.

[VIN18M]

I see a lot of guys in the states running oil coolers under the car on a very slight angle to ensure they pick up cool air. You could always run a thermo fan on the front of the core too, the shroud should help protect it against damage from flying rocks etc.

[bazeng]

Water to air it.

In series after your intercooler.

[Benzo4gT]

I've seen what it does to radiator temps on Mo's, I think I'll give that a miss, I don't think having my intercooler water boiling would be desirable.

[bazeng]

Why not run it after your intercooler. This means ic gets the cold water. The auto gets the water after. You do have a heat exchanger don't you? And a large tank?

[BYBY5L]

You could top mount it under the bonnet scoop.

Does makes it hard to work on the engine, I have to set the tps and to do it is a pita, I hate my top mount,
As vin said remote cooler? Maybe behind fuel tank? Otherwise maybe move the filter an slap one in the corner?

[jack be nimble]

There is a autospeed article about cool8ng and ducting and how to site radiators...

[Benzo4gT]

Why not run it after your intercooler. This means ic gets the cold water. The auto gets the water after. You do have a heat exchanger don't you? And a large tank?

 

I do see your point, but I built it to be like having a winters night at the flick of a switch, which mean it won't be pumping all the time.

[jack be nimble]

http://www.autospeed...Part-1&A=113176

here you go^
Just thinking about how he tests for pressure differentials to check for flow across a radiator. Maybe something useful in there

[evo-gsr]

Interesting article ^

[Benzo4gT]

They always have good articles Autospeed.

I'll be putting the cooler at the rear of the car behind the diff with some ducting a full shroud with some thermo fans............................stay tuned

[jack be nimble]

He has another for siting heat exchangers but i think its mostly covered in the above articles. I have a digital dual manometer, it records peaks and differentials. Good for study of mammarys too

[evo-gsr]

I like mammarys....