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[EVOLANCER]

mmmm getting my new turbo by the end of this year with the custom manifold... but what one do i go after... the 16g one i rekon want give me the power i'm after... the 18g seems perfect, but theirs a 20g their thats in the same price range...

wont the 20g be laggy???? eg full boost at 5000 rpm?
or basicly it would be the same with the 18g... i'm so confused... i'm looking for great power, but good lagg...

1. TD05H 16g
2. TD05H 18g
3. TD05H 20g

[EVL20T]

u can always buy my GT3071R

http://4gtuner.com/f...opic.php?t=3519

can work out a deal also

[JSTYLE]

on a 1.8.. can do you a custom turbo setup using TD05H componentry... which means that it wont be an off the shelf turbo.. anyways ill go find this stuff for you and when you come over ill talk to you about it.. obviously im not going to tell the world what is done to it.. but it will suit what you want from your car.

Jon

[GSRWRC]

Lag is more a result of exhaust housing mods/size rather than compressor wheel size (Although it does play a small part)

If the cars mainly a street car stick to a TD05 16g on the 1800. Any bigger and you're starting to need a lot of room to be able to wind it up and you lose than punch of boost out of corners.

An Evo here in NZ ran 10s on the stock TD05 16g - its possible to get the good power out of them if need be

[CLuTZ]

obviously im not going to tell the world what is done to it..


Jon

Why the hell not??

[amulday]

Barry can get hold of a tdo5/6 23g hybrid, acheiving 22psi at 4500rpm, he also had some 780cc injectors to suit.

[JSTYLE]

obviously im not going to tell the world what is done to it..


Jon

Why the hell not??

Its like rob (CREATD) telling everyone in the world how his GSR can run 134mph.. theres secrets that take time/money and effort to work out.. if everyone knew then why would they come to you? they would just do it themselves.

If you want a turbo built to my specs.. ill get it done.. thats all.

Jon

[Mr Gears]

if everyone knew then why would they come to you? they would just do it themselves.

If you want a turbo built to my specs.. ill get it done.. thats all.

You can't really expect anybody to pay for something without knowing what they are getting can you?

If I was buying a item of considerable value like a turbo charger, I would like to be dealing with a well known and trusted proffessional and I would still want to visit thier shop so that I could check out the item for myself.
I don't know wether you are trustworthy or not and more to the point, what are your skills and credentials?
How long have you been in the business of upgrading turbos?
Can you refer to any satisfied customers for a testimonial?
Good luck with your new fly by night backyard enterprise.

PS the main reasons blokes don't give away the secrets of thier setup is they don't want anyone else to have a similar setup. Not so they can make a quick buck.

[JSTYLE]

You can't really expect anybody to pay for something without knowing what they are getting can you?

They are buying a turbo that will make the power to run what they tell me they want to run. If they want something about more powerful we can experiment and move up in the range of comp wheels we use etc.

If I was buying a item of considerable value like a turbo charger, I would like to be dealing with a well known and trusted proffessional and I would still want to visit thier shop so that I could check out the item for myself.
I don't know wether you are trustworthy or not and more to the point, what are your skills and credentials?

i dont build the turbos.. i get them built to my spec.. the guy who builds them has been tweaking mitsubishi turbos for about 15 years.. started off building turbos for the starions etc.. years and years ago..

And for anyone who is curious.. supply me a 14b turbo in decent condition, ill get it race prepped.. and hi flowed with a big 16g wheel... clipped.. and it will be capable of 220kw.. just like my car with the right supporting mods. Cost is ~$900

How long have you been in the business of upgrading turbos?

Read above.. I get a reasonable discount on turbos etc.. and i pass that on to people who want what i have on my car.. even the guy who builds my turbos will not tell you what i have.. if you asked for a turbo like mine he will build only with my permissions.

If anyone walked into the shop front and asked for what i have on my car.. he would tell you its $300 + on what my price is on it cos he wants people to go through me, as its my custom setup that i created.

Can you refer to any satisfied customers for a testimonial?

my personal car, has run 12.09 on big 16g.. street tyres/street fuel
gsr has run mid 11s with stock manifold.. we are talking stock stock!
Stock vr4 is being modified.. is in the makings.. hoping to run mid 12s on stock ecu/injectors/big16g and jspec cooler

Good luck with your new fly by night backyard enterprise.

its actually not my back yard business.. its what you would call a reseller..

PS the main reasons blokes don't give away the secrets of thier setup is they don't want anyone else to have a similar setup. Not so they can make a quick buck

Heres something for you.. create a car out of your workshop that can put out 219.7kw on stock bottom end.. chipped ecu.. and street fuel..and big16g.

its not easy... it took alot of experimental work..

Jon

PS: you have a friendly pm and i laid down a challenge for you

[tharaka]

if everyone knew then why would they come to you? they would just do it themselves.

If you want a turbo built to my specs.. ill get it done.. thats all.

You can't really expect anybody to pay for something without knowing what they are getting can you?

If I was buying a item of considerable value like a turbo charger, I would like to be dealing with a well known and trusted proffessional and I would still want to visit thier shop so that I could check out the item for myself.
I don't know wether you are trustworthy or not and more to the point, what are your skills and credentials?
How long have you been in the business of upgrading turbos?
Can you refer to any satisfied customers for a testimonial?
Good luck with your new fly by night backyard enterprise.

PS the main reasons blokes don't give away the secrets of thier setup is they don't want anyone else to have a similar setup. Not so they can make a quick buck.

Are you on this forum for any purpose other than to try and discredit Jon, or AFAS any chance you get?

[tenji`]

i've also spoken to techsport about turbo upgrades for the 5..

they told me they have been getting great results out of the td05 18g not so much on the 20g but they are working on it.

told me 18g will be best option.

but the 5 is already putting out 218kws atw

just wanted bit more power.

[OFFON-4]

No secrets at CREATD

134mph came using a gt35/40......... 8)

[CLuTZ]

Back cutting and clipping exhaust wheels isnt new Jon, but if you want to keep your "race prep" secrets to yourself, thats fine

[matress]

mmmm getting my new turbo by the end of this year with the custom manifold... but what one do i go after... the 16g one i rekon want give me the power i'm after... the 18g seems perfect, but theirs a 20g their thats in the same price range...

wont the 20g be laggy???? eg full boost at 5000 rpm?
or basicly it would be the same with the 18g... i'm so confused... i'm looking for great power, but good lagg...

1. TD05H 16g
2. TD05H 18g
3. TD05H 20g

why don't you give mark at gtpumps a buzz?
he should be able to work something out for you...
a lot of people seem to run TD05's with 060 housings on 1.8's to get the faster spool up.
speak to GSRSOL about this, he was running an Evo III 16G with 060 rear housing.
maybe a TD05H front housing with 20G compressor wheel, TD05H turbine wheel and 060 exhaust housing?

[BobWrinkle]

I am running a 20g wheel in a 16g housing with a 060 rear housing or whatever...Lag is non existent...i would recommend a the 16g rear housing :?

[matress]

cade, don't forget he's only running a 1.8 litre, you have a 2 litre

[GSRWRC]

mmmm getting my new turbo by the end of this year with the custom manifold... but what one do i go after... the 16g one i rekon want give me the power i'm after... the 18g seems perfect, but theirs a 20g their thats in the same price range...

wont the 20g be laggy???? eg full boost at 5000 rpm?
or basicly it would be the same with the 18g... i'm so confused... i'm looking for great power, but good lagg...

1. TD05H 16g
2. TD05H 18g
3. TD05H 20g

why don't you give mark at gtpumps a buzz?
he should be able to work something out for you...
a lot of people seem to run TD05's with 060 housings on 1.8's to get the faster spool up.

After running the 7cm? housing on my GSR i'm going to trial the 6cm? housing from the VR-4 TD05 with the 4G93T being built for my Mirage. The 7cm? housing made plenty of power, but as a street car it needed a bit of room to wind it up. Will probably stick to the 'small' 16g comp wheel in the TD05 cover though

[EVOLANCER]

ok... i have got a quote which is alot i know... but i'll be happy with... this place wants my TD05 14b turbo n they r rebuilding it or something putting a 20g wheel in it... they said it wont be laggy at all with what they r doing...

i also got a new throttle body today (thanks Greengsr) n i'll be seeing how that goes... thats for all ya posts... still intrested hereing ppls option...

oh n my car is not a 1.8L its a 1.9L thank u

[JSTYLE]

a 20g on a 2 litre.. speaking to someone who has done it.. they said it makes boost around 3500rpm til about 5000rpm.. on a 1.8/1.9 not sure when it would come, but my guess would say around 4000rpm mark and probably go to around 5500/6000rpm? if you rev your motor to around 7000rpm.. thats about 3000rpm of useable power.. whether thats what youd fancy in a car or not thats your choice!

just telling you what i was told from someone who has a 20g turbo.

My evo has power from about 3000rpm all the way til 7500rpm. so thats about 4500rpm of useable power!

Jon

[gtpumps]

speaking to someone who has done it.. they said it makes boost around 3500rpm til about 5000rpm..
Jon

Our 20G's don't do that