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I just put my fresh EVO2 engine into my gsr i had the loom but that went into the " to hard basket" runs fine on the gsr loom all information above is spot on! just like to add one thing its probably point less but if your using a 7bolt main 4G63 being EVO you can retain your gsr clutch.

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I just put my fresh EVO2 engine into my gsr i had the loom but that went into the " to hard basket" runs fine on the gsr loom all information above is spot on! just like to add one thing its probably point less but if your using a 7bolt main 4G63 being EVO you can retain your gsr clutch.

spot on :D
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i am currently having a major headache with the cv coming off the end off the left front shaft in a cc gsr,with VR4 4g63t conversion. After reading the info here ive realised that the removal of the air-cond bracket has probably been the cause............but, i have had spacers and stuff made yet im having the mentioned prob with cv coming off. What model does the hanger come off that i need, VR4/EVO/GSR??? i would like to simply replace the one i have and even the air-cond bracket if necessary. Plz help,driving me nuts

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As per point numbered lucky 13 above (as you will be lucky if you buy a VR4 engine from somebody with this still attached to it :lol: ) you will need the VR4 aircon bracket to give you the 8mm spacing between the block and the CV mount that you need. Without the correct spacing, your 2 bolts will thread in at an angle to eachother and one of them or both with strip the thread inside and/or the bolt will sieze in position. Also if you dont use the correct spacing I fear that the CV mount will twist under load and bend the 2 bolts holding them into the block causing headaches when you try to remove them. If your block has damaged thread or had bolts broken off at some stage and the thread re-tapped, then the block may not be in the best condition to sustain the bolts causing the bolts to pull out.

It is VERY important that people get it right. You either have a choice of using some hi-tensile washers to give you 8mm (like head stud washers etc) but I would feel more comfortable with people using the proper VR4 aircon mounting bracket which spaces the CV at the correct height and angle from the block. MAKE SURE you get the correct bolts for it as well! The bolts have a special tip on them and have a certain tensile strength rating. The bolts are 46mm in length (not including the head).

Here's a pic for you in the meantime so you know what to look for (the "X" looking bracket in the pic on the left hand side). This aircon mount goes onto the block first, then the hanger bracket bolts onto it.

Good to see the VR4 2 litre into GSR conversion DIY is coming in handy :D

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or you can relocate your alternator (the brackets for which double as that 8mm spacer) 8)
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hey mate, im just half way of completing my conversion, ive bought a vr4 jap spec motor and i bolted up my 1.8 litre gearbox to it. to answer your question yep there the same.
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you said uve nearly done the conversion. ive just started mine, replacing the 1.8 to a vr4 jap spec. can you just tell me how the engine mount is modified the one on the engine side coz i dont get the whole cutting and extending thing. that would be a great help. thanks
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you said uve nearly done the conversion. ive just started mine, replacing the 1.8 to a vr4 jap spec. can you just tell me how the engine mount is modified the one on the engine side coz i dont get the whole cutting and extending thing. that would be a great help. thanks


Just buy a evo1-3 passanger block & engine mount no modding no cutting and shuttting will align the engine to the chassis like factory.
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Just buy a evo1-3 passanger block & engine mount no modding no cutting and shuttting will align the engine to the chassis like factory.


i made a custom plate for my mount just wondering if the evo 1 -3 engine mount on the cambelt side willl fit straight from the vr4 91 motor to the gsr 1992 4door sedan mounting spot? if so i must have gotten the wrong mount? and also if i did use the evo 1 - 3 mount and it did fit does it obstruct anything?

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i made a custom plate for my mount just wondering if the evo 1 -3 engine mount on the cambelt side willl fit straight from the vr4 91 motor to the gsr 1992 4door sedan mounting spot? if so i must have gotten the wrong mount? and also if i did use the evo 1 - 3 mount and it did fit does it obstruct anything?

Evo 1-3 engine mount and bracket will mount a vr4 4g63 engine into a cc sedan
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I have read that if you are putting a vr4 engine into a gsr that you would need the lhs drive shaft but what if you are putting a evo 0 engine in ?

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same deal, its still a vr4 6 bolt motor

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so what driveshaft will fit ? evo or vr4?

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When installing an Evo 1-3 motor into a GSR, can you retain the GSR bonnet?

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When installing an Evo 1-3 motor into a GSR, can you retain the GSR bonnet?


Not with the cam gear cover fitted..I think? my engine fitted with the original bonnet until I was shown the light and was informed I was using a vr4 engine mount instead of the evo one...which caused my engine to sit on a very shady angle:o:D
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Not with the cam gear cover fitted..I think? my engine fitted with the original bonnet until I was shown the light and was informed I was using a vr4 engine mount instead of the evo one...which caused my engine to sit on a very shady angle:o:D

not to mension give you driveshaft seal issues ;)
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Anyone else know about my bonnet question, I need a definate answer, it will pretty much be a "deal breaker" for me. I dont want to change the bonnet or the front bar if I go 2ltr. Intercooling and front bar wont be an issue, I've got a custom water to air set up.

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When installing an Evo 1-3 motor into a GSR, can you retain the GSR bonnet?



14. We used a brand new complete 2 piece EVO 3 front engine mount in this case. We found that we had to cut out the hole in the VR4 timing cover to clear the mount, and grind back a section of the E3 mount to clear VR4 waterpump (although using Evo timing cover would remedy having to cut the VR4 one). No VR4 engine mounts are required. All the mounts on the GSR box are fine.
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Just buy a evo1-3 passanger block & engine mount no modding no cutting and shuttting will align the engine to the chassis like factory.




It pays to read^^^

Also on page 1>>>>

You need an Evo 1-3 engine mount , note there are 2 pieces to it, the part that mounts on the block and the part that mounts to the car, you will need both. This will eliminate having to cut the VR4 mount and also the wrap around in the front of the engine. You will also need to grind some material off the bottom of the mount, the part that attaches to the car as it will stop the water pump pulley turning!! Also need evo plastic cover, the evo engine mount sits through the cover at a different place. Can use VR4 one, but you will need to cut it.


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It wont fit properly, you will need to leave the top timing gear cover off and jack up the rear of the bonnet with washers and cut a chunk out in the under side framework of the bonnet to make room for the cam gears

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It wont fit properly, you will need to leave the top timing gear cover off and jack up the rear of the bonnet with washers and cut a chunk out in the under side framework of the bonnet to make room for the cam gears


Thats if he doesnt do the ABOVE though;)
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