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[KINGCORDIA]

do you start.If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

[KINGCORDIA]

If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

[JSTYLE]

in a cordial.. serously why bother? ud spend 10k on the motor then 20k to get the power to the ground.. thats stupid.

Jon

[MADEVO]

i dare u to do a stroker!!! there are a few bargain kits getting around!!

[KINGCORDIA]

If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

[amulday]

Making claims that it's a 10 second car before anything is done is just fucking stupid. Theres been alot of people that have had setups that should have netted them more than what they got, So why don't you just build up your engine the way you want to and then let the time slips do the talking.

[rock_it]

Well, I don't know much about the cordia RWD but, even if you get the engine to make the power, you would be hard pressed to get it to the ground effectively.

Look at my ride... All custom FWD (from Mitsubishi Eclipse, through to a donor V6 magna) ... Sure it is FWD, but we spent a lot of time making sure the power was able to put to the ground... Anyway, upgrade after upgrade, has seen the car put out over 230 fwkw ... There is wheel spin in 1,2, and all the way through 3rd....

With the amount of cash to get it to this stage, and in comparison to a GSR or an early Evo, I would have got a faster car as an AWD in the first place, for the same amount of cash I spent on the engine/swap and rebuild...

My advice, get an AWD and work that instead ... but that is just my 2c, and my 2c from personal experience....

[CLuTZ]

Dont be stupid, buy a 4WD car.

[Marc]

You know what would be the funny thing when i do this conversion, il have my car looking factory on the outside, factory body, factory paint

If had a car the came from the factory looking like that, i would ask for my money back.

[bazeng]

10 sec with slicks = not a 10 sec street car..
more like 20 sec street car.. nothing but wheel spin!!

for a quick fwd street car, i'd say 13's is already quick!!!
12's and your a beast!

[KINGCORDIA]

IIf you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

[Entaran]

Yeah ok. When you post the dyno sheet....

Oh and don't forget to get the front lsd that you're going to need.

[BobWrinkle]

nah man don't waste your money on lsds or 4wd who needs it....what kind of coin is this 400kw engine going to cost you?

[KINGCORDIA]

If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

[runuts]

Estimate at around $8000 or maybe less, depends. I get my engine done cheaper like what some would think, mates rates.

My engine guy was so glad and and happy that i no longer wish to go any further with my dash, he knows that its pointless with teh dash, he had open arms when i came and told him of my vr4 intentions, he practically laughted it off as he knows how to do up the al mighty vr4 to make serious power with little mods.

If i buy all the parts myself, i will save heaps of monet than if i got a workshop to do it, the only thing that a workshop will do is Fit and tune a computer, and just the engine rebuild, the rest ill be doing myself.

Even if i get a $4000 motec m800 computer on my dash engine its still gonna have un even air/fuel ratios, than ill have have to spend more on a custom multipoint manifold. This is just a reason why im not looking forward to do anything on my dash, cos with a vr4 its all there as factory and it makes modyfing so much easy.

IM not exactly 100% sure what it will cost, cios there is so many variables like for example >

i was quoted like $ 1600 for a Garrett GT 30/40 turbo, in another place >

$1100 for the same thing and in another place $ 950, i bet this goes the same with everything else, so many diffrent prices.

When the engine is in the shop being built, ill be getting all the bolt ons ready for it.

So stay tuned everyone, this will be very exciting, i appreciate the support so far from members in regards to what im about to do, i will no doubt inform about anything that goes on at any time.

Unless he GT3040R was second hand, you wont be getting one for $950 unless someone is losing alot of moey. That is well below the cost price for garrett.

8k, in all honesty I think you have no chance.

Turbo to support 400kw - $1500
Manifold - $350(making it yourself)
External Gate - $350min
Oil/Water Lines - $100min
Injectors - $400min
FPR - $200
Fuel Lines $200min
Fuel Pump/s $180min
Computer - $1000min
Now you havent even started on the engine.
Pistons - $800
Rods - $800
Bearings - $150
Gaskets - $250
Water Pump - $80
T/Belt - $80
Cams - $650min
Springs - $150
Machining - $500min
NOTE: These are just rough prices

But factor in the things i've missed, etc, fitting, plumbing of cooler, exhaust etc, plus tuning, fluids, a clutch to hold it...... the list goes on and on.

As the saying goes, take your cost estimate, and double it and you'll pretty much be about there when its done.

[Evo-00x]

RUNUTS is right. I estimated $7000 doing my own build and sent bits away that I couldnt do (machining and balancing) and costs simply blew out. Your expectations on quality change in time and you'll find yourself thinking 'if I buy this' and 'if I do that' and end up buying extra things and doing extra work than anticipated. Everyone starts off with good intentions to stick to a budget but things blow out real quick and before you know it you just spent more than a deposit for a home :roll: The cheapest alternative is to buy built... be disciplined and keep that bank statement looking healthy - when you see something for the right price pounce on it As far as FWD goes you soon figure out that even with 150kw atw you're battling to find traction so my advice is to go AWD. My brothers EVO powered FWD Lancer does 13.1's with stock engine and it still breaks traction easily in high 3rd gear before you change to 4th.

[bazeng]

Yes its major power, but ill be doing it and i will prove to all that it can be done with a cordia.

already have with the cyclon cordia!!


as for building for 8k... good luck mate...
8k plus 500000 of your own man hours....
if your paying others to do it, maybe triple the coin!

i'm doing about 80% of the work on my car myself, its still going on and has cost me heaps more than 8k!

the engine alone took a good year to build!.. with the change of parts, not happy with this, not happy with that, waiting for more parts etc etc ...

honestly, its a real pain in the ass...
u sure u want to go through with this? why not cruise at 150kw's and enjoy the thing......??

[KINGCORDIA]

If you dont meet horatio and Marcellus,the rivalsof my watch,bid them make haste, i think i hear them stand ho! who is there?the bell then beating one, where nowit burnsm, what art thou that usurp'st this time it harrows together with that fair and warlike form sharked up a list of lawless motive of comulsory watch posthaste and cheif head.

I think it be no other but e'en so, good now does not divide partiqulaer sunday weekcast of brazen implements thus twice hath he gone inform mewho isnt at least a whisper subject of ther landdid say forfeitn well he stood moiety competant.disasters as behold harbingers precedding climatures countrymen whso have heard and do part believeer comes again uphoarded you spirits of mightness trains of fire and dews of blood and like doth the cock to speak upon with lofty gestures started like guilty Gosh of day.

faded bird of dawnings saviours crowing birth is celebrated like being whether in sea or fire it was absurd gainst that season comes,shall seen to light bear our hearts fitting ditty and ditto part believ for upon speak to him holding a weak enterprise supposal valiant brother full of proportions and further voltemeand good cornelious,surrendor of thoseyeah now must confess wrung from me tis not alone nor derctive for they actiocnare met with full swords mourning duties obligations obscerities the survivor behold so partiqualer withing passports.

[Evo-00x]

Yep awesome power but its one thing having 600fwhp on a dyno and another thing trying to put it to the ground. Have a look at Rob Barac's flat 12 fwd run down the quarter (gotta luv the music ) http://users.tpg.com...ideo/fwdevo.avi

[matress]

if your adamant about doing the cordia, then go for it, but be aware of all the advice that people have given you.

barry and runuts are building 10 second cars so they should know about the costs involved.

and nothing is ever as straight forward as you expect until u get right into it. there will always be extra costs that u didn't expect.

my advice is to do a lot of reading on dsmtuners.com and dsmtalk.com and research what they have done. they have a lot of fantastic write-ups.

parts from the USA also seem to be a lot cheaper than buying them locally so that could say u costs.

but good luck! id love to see a 10 second cordia!