38 replies to this topic

[deviantek]

so saying there is animosity towards beginners is garbage,

I have received some great help, and I appreciate that, but often times it's accompanied by what you called "animosity towards beginners". I don't think of myself as a retard nor an idiot and don't appreciate comments as such. I do think the search engine on this site is garbage and I've used it in frustrated attempts to get the information I have been seeking.

As for this specific thread, yes it has been covered many times and I think the OP has been around to see previous threads that address his topic in question. However, the comments by some of the members on this site are down right offensive and attack-oriented.

[deviantek]

My ego has nothing to do with you being a retard.

Way to dodge the question, and thanks for that.

[GSRSOL]

As for this specific thread, yes it has been covered many times and I think the OP has been around to see previous threads that address his topic in question. However, the comments by some of the members on this site are down right offensive and attack-oriented.

I hate to say it, but youve brought it upon yourself.

I strongly recommend cooling it to avoid further reprimand.

[lancerevo92]

ok i just did a half hour of searching, and i didn't find an answer, I did read a great thread about redline products and recommendations.
I wanna know is it safe to add LSD additive to the tranny?

[Liberoz]

Sound advise from Mr Gears cut and past from another Mitsu forum btw.

Yeah, too many times we have seen thin oil in diffs and transfer cases.
Simon, the red stuff in your transfer was as thin as p#ss. We like to use oils that are as close to the manufacturers specs as possible (the Diaqueen Transfer and diff oil is still not available in Aus). So we use an LS90 EP Hypoid gear oil made by ELF. We put our trust into oils that are tested and meet several international standards.
The AYC and ACD systems in these cars are very complex and expensive, I would not want to do the 'testing' with the fancy oils. I know that the manufacturer designed these assemblies to operate with a specific grade of oil. Using something other than specified could result in gear damage, clutch pack damage or even AYC pump faults.

[ENGINR]

evo-oz (EvolutionOz) have a Newbie forum.

[Liberoz]

evo-oz (EvolutionOz) have a Newbie forum.

exactly and I have to agree it was worth its weight in gold getting all the noob posts out of the technical sections (good house keeping)

T4G Mods what a great idea, its worked for other forums why not

[CLuTZ]

I dont have a problem answering noob questions- afterall, everyone has to start somewhere.

Its when they keep asking the same questions over and over again without listening to the people who are trying to help them out is when being a noob starts getting annoying.

[VR-4Squid]

Sound advise from Mr Gears cut and past from another Mitsu forum btw.

Yeah, too many times we have seen thin oil in diffs and transfer cases.
Simon, the red stuff in your transfer was as thin as p#ss. We like to use oils that are as close to the manufacturers specs as possible (the Diaqueen Transfer and diff oil is still not available in Aus). So we use an LS90 EP Hypoid gear oil made by ELF. We put our trust into oils that are tested and meet several international standards.
The AYC and ACD systems in these cars are very complex and expensive, I would not want to do the 'testing' with the fancy oils. I know that the manufacturer designed these assemblies to operate with a specific grade of oil. Using something other than specified could result in gear damage, clutch pack damage or even AYC pump faults.

Which clearly relates to later Evo's, earlier ones (such as the subject of this post and indeed, section) not being fitted with AYC or ACD, and therefore has no relevance. It could be helpful to owners of later evo's, but a link to the discussion the quote was taken from is needed so the full context can understood, to prevent mis-understandings.

no the search function here isn't google - but it's no worse than any other forum search I've used, I could recommend a book that would answer your question - but perhaps you'd just flick through the pages and then complain that the answer wasn't there. . .

I agree with GSRWRC, the quickest way to learn something is to shut up and listen (or in this case read) - it has the added bonus that you quickly develop an understanding of who knows what they are on about, and who just copies and pastes stuff from elsewhere.

[Dean]

i'm with dre here.
theres nothing wrong with noobie questions.. theres a bit of noob in all of us.
and in all honesty our search function isnt the best.
BUT
FFS, dont be lazy. search a few times rather than once.
End Of Story.

[Evo-00x]

Nothing wrong with just having a "POPULAR TECH FAQ" sticky either. We made one in the coupe forum. It's just a thread which links to a whole bunch of good tech FAQ's and write-ups in the forum Have a look see: http://evocoupe.net/....php?f=2&t=3450 . It got rid of a bunch of Tech stickies in the Tech section and compiled them all in a one stop thread an Admin can make links to. Common things such as spark plug gaps, what oil should I use, how do I know if I have LSD or not should be included without getting too out of hand.

There's also no need to re-invent the wheel with an extensive FAQ section as the DSM'ers in the US already have great sites such as http://www.vfaq.com/index-main.html and http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/ that you can access at the click of a button.

[Liberoz]

Nothing wrong with just having a "POPULAR TECH FAQ" sticky either. We made one in the coupe forum. It's just a thread which links to a whole bunch of good tech FAQ's and write-ups in the forum Have a look see: http://evocoupe.net/....php?f=2&t=3450 . It got rid of a bunch of Tech stickies in the Tech section and compiled them all in a one stop thread an Admin can make links to. Common things such as spark plug gaps, what oil should I use, how do I know if I have LSD or not should be included without getting too out of hand.

There's also no need to re-invent the wheel with an extensive FAQ section as the DSM'ers in the US already have great sites such as http://www.vfaq.com/index-main.html and http://members.shaw.ca/costall/1000Q/ that you can access at the click of a button.

The EvoCoupe "POPULAR TECH FAQ" sticky was a brilliant idea, as you can just point all the noobs there and state

"Now do some reading here before you keep posting repetitive questions that have all been answered on here before"

[thirteen]

Nismo LSD Gear Oil 80W-90 1 Liter:
http://www.rhdjapan....0-1-Liter-53984

[Liberoz]

Nismo LSD Gear Oil 80W-90 1 Liter:
http://www.rhdjapan....0-1-Liter-53984

Why would you bother when Mitsu recommends LSX90 and its available locally for around $24 for 1 Litre.

[Liberoz]

search on this forum sucks, so I'll help give you info on what I use.

I'm using redline MTL-80. Definitely do not reccomend adding any LSD additive as it will eat up your synchros. Stick with GL-4. GL-5 stuff in the gearbox = no no.

I would recommend using Redline at all after seeing what it does to gear sets and internals and reading up on many Mitsubishi Evolution specific tests and redline products hasn�t come up positive against Mitsu Recommended Castrol products.

Use at your own discretion

[lancerevo92]

i'm happy with the gear oil i've been using, but i'm asking is it safe to add friction modifier to the gearbox?(or LSD additive)

I believe i have a 1 way cusco type MZ clutch type LSD in the front and the rear(the rear i know) so i've solved the chattering sound in the rear, but the front is still chattering. I've already added about 60 ml of LSD additive, so after a 10 min run on the highway, the chatter pretty much disappears, but when i just drive around town, it chatters (does'nt heat up enough?) i want to add more, but i'm afraid i will wreck the tranny.

**update** i've added an additional 30 ml, chattering sound is almost gone, but it's still bucking, gonna add another 30 ml later.

**update** i've added an additional 50 ml to the transmission, and 20ml to the rear differential. I went for a little drive, but still chattering. Gotta go later and find a parking lot to do some figure 8's.

If the transmission is slightly over full (140 ml) or the rear diff is slightly over full (50-70 ml) ( I added the friction modifier on an incline so it would'nt spill out) will it effect the way each performs?

I'm following AMSOIL advice check it http://www.performan...rlubricants.htm

Edited by lancerevo92, 28 July 2008 - 07:18 PM.

[lancerevo92]

So i assume no one knows if friction modifier is safe or unsafe in our gear boxes? I've searched all over the internet, including this site, and i've recieved no info regarding this. The closest thing is based on an automatic transmission, they say it helps the auto tranny last longer.

[bazeng]

The modifier should be fine imo

They are found in the redline oils as standard and they do fine in other / our gearbox's....

I dont have any issues with it being in my gearbox as yet.

[lancerevo92]

The modifier should be fine imo

They are found in the redline oils as standard and they do fine in other / our gearbox's....

I dont have any issues with it being in my gearbox as yet.

Thank you, how long have you been using it in your gear box? and how much have you added?