4g63T dry sump + some interesting info

[DOUGMO]

I run a kiggly restrictor, baffled sump and an accumulator at the moment

that's the best setup possible on a wet sump




still no where close to a dry sump

 

[DOUGMO]

Fk $5.5k. Additional baffles in the sump?

DSM guys seem to have tried a product called Accusump, looks ok in theory but doesn't seem to get the greatest wrap for full race application.

a dry sump is not a baffled sump, its an external pump that feeds the engine through oil lines, and scavenges the oil from the bottom
of a generally quite shallow sump/pan. the oil is pumped from a large external tank so surge is eliminated.

0 surge issues with a dry sump kit

 

[Missile]

a dry sump is not a baffled sump, its an external pump that feeds the engine through oil lines, and scavenges the oil from the bottom
of a generally quite shallow sump/pan. the oil is pumped from a large external tank so surge is eliminated.

0 surge issues with a dry sump kit

All over it George. My grammar has been misconstrued.

Translation:
Wow $5,500 is a lot of money. Surely there is a cheaper option such as modifying the OEM sump with additional baffles etc. before making the full financial commitment of a dry sump.

 

[DOUGMO]

definitely cheaper but no where near as good :thumbsup:

 

[Hypo]

lol, all my evos have dry sump. So much safer, the Norris kit is one of the best out there. mine all rev well over 10,000rpm tho, for daily driving not really worth it.

It would be good to understand what you did on the earlier models to get it all to work.

 

[trippy]

all my kits are custom made, $5,500 is a very cheap kit its more like $8,000 by the time its all setup with the right hoses and strainers etc and that's no labour. I love them as you can regulate oil psi and they suck the oil out of the motor so problem with excess oil in the head, as well as you can run a mech pump off them so if you spit a belt you wont run the system with no oil as it will shut off as there is no fuel. I also run sensors that will shut the car off if it drops oil or fuel psi as well as EGT's you can never be safe enough when you are pushing a motor to its max.

 

[EVO-00X]

^^^ WOW!!! That sounds like the shit!! :thumbsup:

 

[evopwr]

Pretty neat setup!

Do tarmac competition rally evo's run dry sumps? And if so what have they been using (a custom kit I imagine)..

 

[MDK87]

all my kits are custom made, $5,500 is a very cheap kit its more like $8,000 by the time its all setup with the right hoses and strainers etc and that's no labour. I love them as you can regulate oil psi and they suck the oil out of the motor so problem with excess oil in the head, as well as you can run a mech pump off them so if you spit a belt you wont run the system with no oil as it will shut off as there is no fuel. I also run sensors that will shut the car off if it drops oil or fuel psi as well as EGT's you can never be safe enough when you are pushing a motor to its max.

Are these all safety measures made using configurable inputs to the ECU, or is it something a bit more advanced?

 

[DOUGMO]

I run all of the above except a dry sump pump, pretty standard stuff for a competiton car with big $$ engine

if you include electrical circuits and gps data im logging 77 different channels of data

 

[MDK87]

I run all of the above except a dry sump pump, pretty standard stuff for a competiton car with big $$ engine

if you include electrical circuits and gps data im logging 77 different channels of data

So... how is it done? Haha

 

[DOUGMO]

I have a motec dash, motec ecu and motec pdm (power distribution module) that all talk with each other.

I can then overlay the data from all 3 of them together in the i2 software to read the data together, so good

 

[MDK87]

I have a motec dash, motec ecu and motec pdm (power distribution module) that all talk with each other.

I can then overlay the data from all 3 of them together in the i2 software to read the data together, so good

Yummy

 

[DOUGMO]

yep, and crazy money lol, well worth it though