70mm aftermarket CNC'd throttle body CE9A

[Liberoz]

Description

• Brand New in box, Billet CNC with Anodising finish.
• Aftermarket Performance Throttle Body for Mitsubishi 4G63 1G ,2g , 4G93 , 4G93T , 4G92 Mivec .
• Bore size is 70mm tip to 70mm on throttle Plate.
• Large bore increases air volume which give faster respond and more horsepower.
• Will need to rebore on the intake manifold for port matching on the larger bore throttle
• Able to Install the OEM ISC ( Idle Speed control ) or Cover up using the Provided spacer.
• Bolt up your stock TPS directly without modification.
• CNC throttle wheel
• Ball Bearing Throttle Shaft.
• Available in 4 Colour , Blue , silver , black and Red.
  
• Plug and play to engine listed below.
• TPS is NOT included.
• Gasket is NOT included.
• E-mail us for more questions.

1. JDM 4G63 Turbo 1G VR4 ( Galant E39A )
2. JDM 4G63 Turbo 2G EVO 1 , 2 , 3 ( CD9A , CE9A )
3. JDM 4G93 NA ( Colt summit , lancer )
4. JDM 4G93 Turbo ( Lancer 4wd CD5W )
5. JDM 4G92 MIVEC ( Mirage Cyborg CA4A )
6. USDM Eclipse 2G 4G63( 92-95 )
7. USDM Eclipse 1G 4g63 ( 89-91 )

Pricey but at least someone has made a direct bolt on replacement which utilises the oem idle speed control

egay link >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...l1313&_nkw=360150373010&_sacat=&_fvi=1&_rdc=1

 

[ENGINR]

Wow, looks good.

 

[Qik-1.8]

i want one

 

[EVO-00X]

I'd think twice about it before rushing in to get one. They are the old KU Engineering TB's, but without the adapter plate. They look nice but there were a couple of design flaws in the previous model which also cost $300US!

I had 2 problems with mine when I bought it that I had to get the holes underneath for the idle stepper alloy welded up then resurfaced.

ISSUE 1. The original design had an adapter plate for the ISC but the holes didnt align well and when they did water travelled from the hole in the ISC, to the allen key bolt holding the plate on, then the gap from the allen key bolt allowed water to bypass and make its way into the hole that enters into throttle body! Lucky I discovered that before I used the thing with a stock ISC otherwise water would have gotten into the throttle body. Now they have slightly changed the design and got rid of the adapter plate... so looks like that might have been remedied but the only way to find out is to check with an ISC to be 100% sure. They obviously didnt check their previous design very well.

ISSUE 2. The other design flaw is the amount of metal between the flange bolt holes and the holes for the idle stepper - it's VERY THIN that the wall collapsed between both chambers on mine that I had the whole frikken thing alloy welded up. See pic. I then pissed off the stock ISC and using a Haltech idle control system instead.

I told the guy selling them on EBay back then "NOS63" about the flaw about 2-3 years ago and he never replied nor warned other people about it. Hopefully this new design might have fixed both problems.

Alternatively, if you want a good billet TB try a BMI 70mm instead. There is another good one on the market made in Australia, cant recall the name but it started with an "O"

 

[ENGINR]

Farout Rob, what HAVEN'T you experienced, learnt, seen or done with these engines!? :w00t:

 

[EVOCPE]

Driving them lol

 

[FRANK-E]

hahahahahahah

 

[Marc]

Bwaaaaahahahahahaha, its funny cause its true, by the way, hows yours going EVOCPE??

But yeah you made some pretty solid points there Rob, otherwise that T/B "Looks" great but yeah a couple of flaws.

 

[EVOCPE]

Coupe is comin along nicely Marc

But we wont clog up this thread with that lol

 

[3zercrowd]

I found this one on Ebay last night just before I went to bed. I was too tired to post it up then:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4G63-Evo-1-3...s=65:10|66:2|39:1|240:1318|301:0|293:4|294:50

 

[acedsm]

70mm i wouldn't waste my time and step upto the 90mm q45 for $100 less. This would equate to better performance and much more linear throttle response.

 

[GSRWRC]

Personally I think the stock 60mm t/b is perfect unless you have a full on drag car. You lose a lot of throttle resolution at part throttle conditions with large t/bs, can make them difficult to modulate at mid-low rpm.

Not an issue for drag only cars as they're full throttle 99% of the time. Track and street is a different story.

 

[EVO-00X]

70mm i wouldn't waste my time and step upto the 90mm q45 for $100 less. This would equate to better performance and much more linear throttle response.

Actually its quite the contrary and people fall into the trap of the belief that bigger is better. Its not the case at all for a street car as GSRWRC mentioned above. Large TB's like the Q45 90mm with the accelerator depressed 20% will flow as much as the stock TB at 50% for examples sake. It will give the impression that it's either off or on and you really dont want that on a street car where throttle control is important. On a drag car where the throttle is constantly held open then yeah, a big TB is good to allow maximum flow But the balance between throttle response and control is preferred on a street car.

To be honest you dont even need to upgrade form the stock 60mm TB unless you're making over 300kw atw or so. There's plenty 4G63's running this sort of power with the stock TB's still in place. The change to a larger TB need only be by 10mm to a 70mm unit to allow enough flow to cater for a big increase in hp over stock. The larger the TB, the less throttle control you get.

 

[acedsm]

Personally I think the stock 60mm t/b is perfect unless you have a full on drag car. You lose a lot of throttle resolution at part throttle conditions with large t/bs, can make them difficult to modulate at mid-low rpm.

Not an issue for drag only cars as they're full throttle 99% of the time. Track and street is a different story.

This is not true at all, well from my experience anyway. I have a q45 throttle body and i cannot tell the difference on "low throttle modulation." There is a reason why this particular throttle body does this well. Every other billet style throttle body will have a poor throttle modulation because it has a linear throttle linkage. It is not difficult to design a non linear linkage but from a cnc and programming perspective its easier to design and cnc a circular linkage but the trade off is it drives like crap.

If anyone has a chance to compare the linkage from a q45 and a after market throttle body it is a very interesting look.

 

[Missile]

I found this one on Ebay last night just before I went to bed. I was too tired to post it up then:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/4G63-Evo-1-3-4-6-7-9-Throttle-Body-70mm_W0QQitemZ260430343065QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3ca2dbab99&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=65%3A10%7C66%3A2%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A4%7C294%3A50

RPW will be flogging these off from their shop for around the $450 mark. They are bought in from Malaysia (either manufactured in Malaysia or Taiwan), manufactured by s90 racing? You can pick these up new from Malaysian on-sellers for a max price of 750rm (you do the conversion ). I wonder if the ebay seller is from Malaysia undercutting rpw, or it is actually rpw selling the items under that ebay seller name. Product is new so their is little to no feedback on them...

 

[GSRSOL]

tried and tested XF jobbie FTW

 

[EVO-00X]

Thats' right, small increases can provide significant gains in flow.
Look at Joey's AWD 4G63T Satria for example. 650hp+ NOS using a 60mm Magna throttle body I sold him years ago. Mind you, I'd rather see him go up to 70mm or so, but its definitely making the cookies with a small stock size TB. If his tuner starts to believe it is becoming a restriction then it will be upgraded.
turbo outlet size, intercooler piping size and TB size all come into effect into the way the engine behaves under throttle.

 

[Mitsiman]

RPW will be flogging these off from their shop for around the $450 mark. They are bought in from Malaysia (either manufactured in Malaysia or Taiwan), manufactured by s90 racing? You can pick these up new from Malaysian on-sellers for a max price of 750rm (you do the conversion ). I wonder if the ebay seller is from Malaysia undercutting rpw, or it is actually rpw selling the items under that ebay seller name. Product is new so their is little to no feedback on them...

Just thought I would clarify - the units we are selling are definitly not the same as the ones in the link. Firstly ours are not coloured and the S90 ones we are marketing, do not have any of the fitment issues you are referring to. I have two in stock this moment and they definitly fit up nicely in every way.

The ebay link you are referring to, were copies made in china of the S90 units by an origonal retailer of the S90 units and are definitly infererior in qaulity.

If you are in perth, feel free to drop by and have a look at our sample units we are stocking. I will be using one of these myself on my own vehicle in the upcoming weeks on my EVO 3.

 

[3zercrowd]

Just thought I would clarify - the units we are selling are definitly not the same as the ones in the link. Firstly ours are not coloured and the S90 ones we are marketing, do not have any of the fitment issues you are referring to. I have two in stock this moment and they definitly fit up nicely in every way.

The ebay link you are referring to, were copies made in china of the S90 units by an origonal retailer of the S90 units and are definitly infererior in qaulity.

If you are in perth, feel free to drop by and have a look at our sample units we are stocking. I will be using one of these myself on my own vehicle in the upcoming weeks on my EVO 3.

Should post some pics up!:thumbsup:

 

[Missile]

Just thought I would clarify - the units we are selling are definitly not the same as the ones in the link. Firstly ours are not coloured and the S90 ones we are marketing, do not have any of the fitment issues you are referring to. I have two in stock this moment and they definitly fit up nicely in every way.

The ebay link you are referring to, were copies made in china of the S90 units by an origonal retailer of the S90 units and are definitly infererior in qaulity.

If you are in perth, feel free to drop by and have a look at our sample units we are stocking. I will be using one of these myself on my own vehicle in the upcoming weeks on my EVO 3.

You didnt read the entire thread did you

Hint: There is more than 1 ebay link