Car Broken Again

[lefty]

um, at xmas time/early jan, after i got a new car battery, one night my car was playing up and idleing very low (like 400/500rpm), and the car was strugling to survive, so i decided to leave it at home and get it fixed the next day, except the next day it was working/idling/running fine.

Now this morning, the same crap happened, but their time its dying, and the engine doesnt sound great. The car starts, rev's, then drops and it dead. It cant be the crank angle sensor because i just got it replaced. Any ideas what it could be?

I think I might get it towed to E.Side Mitsubishi tomorrow... :S

 

[VR-4Squid]

a quick check of the fault codes mite point you in the right direction - esp if it's the cas

 

[lefty]

no i knw its not that Crank Angle Sensor, impossible
had it replaced some time last year.

I have a feeling its the idle motor/controler?

 

[lefty]

actually i think theres an air leak, around the intake manifold?
is this possible?

i have been noticing, and i change gears, the turbo bov noise is slightly different somehow.. ?

 

[lefty]

Well car is getting look at tomorrow.

I noticed some white smoke when it was running, wasnt white white, but yea, wasnt really black. Car is still struggling to idle

Any rough ideas? What problems occur when your turbo dies/on its last legs? Air leak/vacumm leak? Idle controller? Not enough fuel?

I'll see what the quote is tomorrow sometime I guess.

 

[GSRSOL]

if your turbo is BWOKEN make sure you upgrade 8)

white smoke on boost is a good sign of a forked turbo, otherwise valve stem seals are a culprit if you get a puff of white smoke when you raise revs after having the car idle for a little while.

 

[lefty]

if your turbo is BWOKEN make sure you upgrade 8)

white smoke on boost is a good sign of a forked turbo, otherwise valve stem seals are a culprit if you get a puff of white smoke when you raise revs after having the car idle for a little while.

mmm no, it was whitish when it was started/just running. Maybe it was like that because i havent started it in ages, or because new exhaust doesnt have alot of black crap in it or because theres not enough fuel getting into the car because of this stupid problem im having atm?

i am a bit paranoid of things, proberly nothing. Still seems to run fine.

i will upgrade if it is the turbo, doubt it though, seemed to still have some sort of punch in it. Anyways eastside mitsu will find the problem hopefully tomorrow sometime

 

[lefty]

hrm car seems to be idling correctly now at mitsu

but this is whats needed to be repaired.

- $30 wastegate for turbo, $30 (apparently been disconnected/missing)wtf?
- $77 for power steering fluid change/flush
- $67 for throttle body adjustments to help fix the idling problem?
- $95 for checkover
- $6 for a rear globe

 

[lefty]

idle speed control motor it is

$492

b'oh.

time to ring mechanic

 

[3zercrowd]

idle speed control motor it is

$492

b'oh.

time to ring mechanic

Meek has them for WAY cheaper than that! 1/4 of the price as I recall

 

[lefty]

idle speed control motor it is

$492

b'oh.

time to ring mechanic

Meek has them for WAY cheaper than that! 1/4 of the price as I recall

hrm i called, $100, although does that sound right? My mechanic told me instantly that they are usually $400-$500, then rang a few places, and there are three parts/models/bits to it apparently, apparently ranging from $150 to $440, so i assume for $492 the entire assembly gets replaced.

edit: ah fark it, just said fix it to mitsu, got $40 off the throttle body cleaning/adjusting. $397 was the part cost of the idle motor controller then you got add on the labour to install/fit it. The joy of cars

 

[brisvr4]

Holy cow!!
I have a brand new isc sitting right here the owes me $100! Correct Mitsi part too. :shock:

 

[GSRSOL]

I told you NOT to go to nunnawadding mitsubishi :?

 

[lefty]

never mind dan... it needs to be fixed, it needs to be fixed.

if i didnt go ahead with the repairs it still would of cost me $95 + then $100 for the part, then labour $100?, theres $300.

What screwed me was that i agreed to repair the stuff he told me first, then afterwards, rang to get the motor controller changed :S If he just told me straight out 'this much' then i could of said 'nah, dw, heres the $95 for inspection'. I learnt my lesson the hard way, $720 all up.

Just a bit concered about this wastegate, what does it do and why was it missing or was it missing because someone in the past purposely took it away? The car is boosted... ideas?

I suppose it could have been worse in the end of the day ey...

 

[JETGSR]

Tim keep that idle control motor handy mine hasn't been started yet so you never know! well knowing my luck. Should be started next week. then off to the dyno. just waiting for my new alloy radiator.

with reguards to the thread re: cost to reset and setup throttle body etc there is info on the web somewhere. it gives you all the info to do it your self.(i've done it once before)

You need a mulitmeter and some brains (I said SOME brains - you dont have to be a brain surgen)

JetGSR

 

[lefty]

Tim keep that idle control motor handy mine hasn't been started yet so you never know! well knowing my luck. Should be started next week. then off to the dyno. just waiting for my new alloy radiator.

with reguards to the thread re: cost to reset and setup throttle body etc there is info on the web somewhere. it gives you all the info to do it your self.(i've done it once before)

You need a mulitmeter and some brains (I said SOME brains - you dont have to be a brain surgen)

JetGSR

sweet! post the link up sometime, ill have a read anyways.

im elec. engineer so using a MM isnt hard
just seem to get electric shocked from film flash capacitors, lol.

 

[CLuTZ]

I told you NOT to go to nunnawadding mitsubishi :?

I could have told that to you too, they're a bunch of idiots out there.

 

[lefty]

I told you NOT to go to nunnawadding mitsubishi :?

I could have told that to you too, they're a bunch of idiots out there.

as long as they fix it properly, i will be happy.

thats all i ask.

atm i cannot comment because i dont have my car back yet.

 

[brisvr4]

Lol Troy, it's sitting right here in my tool box mate

Lefty, go to vfaq mate. All the info you need to know is there.

 

[lefty]

car back, horra.

It wasnt the wastegate that was missing, the vacumm hose was missing, although when i bought the car i was told that this part was my boost controller (it was like a tiny t-piece pipe) for my 14psi boost? :S

Also I was wondering, where exactly is this ISC motor eh?

Is this it?