Clutch fork and pivot ball

[Gianni]

Hey peeps
Is it possible to change clutch fork and pivot ball on a gsr box withought removing the box. Been inspecting and I reckon I can unhook the clutch fork through the gap fairly easily and pull it out. Then get a long socket in the pivot ball and unbolt it. Then putting new ball in should be easy but what about hookin up the fork again?

Has anyone done this before? What are people's thoughts on the matter?

 

[Lister]

You might have small issues removing the release bearing. Look forward to hearing how your experience goes.

 

[Gianni]

Na. I don't need to take the release bearing off. Just that clip that goes around it and holds te fork on

 

[BMGTZ]

I tried this once.....swore at it for a few hours then took the box out.

The problem was that I couldn't get the fork all the way off the ball.....it was hitting the fly wheel.{4g63}

I have seen people on here say they have done it tho

 

[khubner1]

long screw driver will pop the fork off the pivot ball getting down to the throwout bearing to unclip it is impossible. if you can pop the fork off and have enough room to work on the ball go for it but its easier to drop the box.

im like bmgtz tried swore argued with the old man over how to fix it he tried swore at it argued some more over how to fix it droped the box i went looking for spares bny the time i got back he'd done my fix.

don't bother asking mitsy for a new fork $800 new. i can buy a whole friggin box for that!

 

[4piknup]

look up jacks,
http://www.jackstransmissions.com/collections/clutch-misc
$60 for fork and $9 for pivot ball. even if you double it for freight it still cheap.
will take 10 or so days to get here

 

[4piknup]

well, it should only take 10 days.
my bits from jacks took 4 weeks and went through mexico for 2 weeks. but the guys at jacks were helpful and got it sorted.
not really their fault that USPS stuff things up tho.
Bullet Out of Foreign Customs, April 03, 2011, 3:05 pm, AUSTRALIA
Bullet Into Foreign Customs, April 03, 2011, 2:56 pm, AUSTRALIA
Bullet Arrived Abroad, April 03, 2011, 2:55 pm, AUSTRALIA
Bullet Arrived Abroad, March 15, 2011, 10:14 pm, MEXICO
Bullet Into Foreign Customs, March 15, 2011, 10:00 pm, MEXICO
Bullet Arrived Abroad, March 15, 2011, 9:59 pm, MEXICO
Bullet International Dispatch, March 14, 2011, 5:08 am, ISC SAN FRANCISCO (USPS)
Bullet Arrival
Bullet Processed through Sort Facility, March 10, 2011, 11:22 pm, COLORADO SPRINGS, CO 80910
Bullet Electronic Shipping Info Received, March 09, 2011

jacks have to do the chasing as usps will not help the receiver

 

[caged]

I couldn't get the pivot ball all the way out so I just cut a washer so it slid on with the pivot loose in place. Lasted years like that.

 

[Paul]

Extremepsi has forks and pivot balls. Have received stuff from them in under a week, but shipping is costly.

+1 on box removal. You'll be able to grease everything up properly as well

 

[nk]

any luck on this one?

i just snapped a clutch fork and need to swap it out asap! removing the box is not ideal, as it would need to be towed half way across town.

 

[Gianni]

NA. Blew my motor before I had a chance but an above suggestion (cutting a washer and placing it I've pivot ball could work

 

[4piknup]

there is no way you are going to get a clutch fork changed without splitting motor and box. apparently you can pull box out the bottom leaving motor in place.

 

[Gianni]

Yeah. I have a crane. Separating box and motor and getting it back on is really fiddly. Pulling the motor out and dropping it back in is alot easier for me.

 

[nk]

looking at my spare fork assembly, it looks possible.. albeit with ALOT of f#%king around, and some damn fancy pliers. i think the hard part will be levering the clip from the fork without it falling off completely.

i need to avoid gearbox removal because the car is in an open residential car park, which limits my tools to a portable jack and a 1/2" rachet set. also possible, but i'd rather not go through that again.

 

[Gianni]

So cars not at home. Why can't you drive it home bro?

 

[nk]

i live about 30min from where the clutch decided to let go.. the mrs lives 2min away so it was the easier option. just my luck too, had to cruise past cops at 4000 revs in 1st gear with my hazards on, as they were stepping out of their car. they turned around to get back in and give chase, but i think they didn't bother cos it was pouring down with rain.

to make things worse, i had a serious buyer coming to have a look at the car this arvo. btw the evo has a much shorter first gear, i would probably do some damage driving it that far, not to mention the stop-starting at lights in gear, with 272 degree cams.

can you reach the clip ends easily with a screwdriver from the bellhousing opening? as long as the bearing doesn't move around too much i think i might be able to pull it off. i'll get onto it tomorrow if the rain stops.

 

[Gianni]

Reason I ask bro is that you can change gears without a clutch. It's called rev matching. I've driven ages withought the clutch before.

Just try avoid red lights because you have to start in gear and is embarasing.

General rule is pop Into neutral rev motor to around 4k or so and as it drops off gently slot it into gear. (my car is genearally around 3k from memory) don't force it. It should go in easy. Don't bother gearing down. Every motor gear box combo is slightly different.

 

[4piknup]

man that will destroy synchros if you dont get it right and force it.
its a manual right, just get the mrs to tow it. tie rope on and away you go...

if dont trust mrs get your dad or maybe someone here can help you. use an automatic as the tow car if you have a choice as its easier on the tow rope.
dont let the tow rope get loose by you stopping the car infront. leave your car idling if you want easier brakes. easy.

ive done this down the freeway with a chick towing me for about 50km.
done it when my ke30 blew up from mandurah to bridgetown at night at 130-150kph by a valiant with no speedo.

maybe drive it in second at night when its quiet.
what about hire a car trailer with a working winch?

 

[khubner1]

some of the road side fixes me and the old man have completed would shock some of you guys. lets see gear box swap drive shaft swap complete read diff in a 2t van. injectors thermo fans fuel/water pumps. most of these have been done in a public car park comendere 3 spots and out comes the hydraulic jack

 

[caged]

Just drive it. Its not hard.