GSR questions??

[Rally_dan]

Hey guys. just wondering if you guys could help me out..

Thinking about getting a 95 Lancer GSR rally car.
just wanna know how hard it is to get parts for GSR's? just mainly stuff like Suspension arms and gearboxes/diffs and stuff. also engine parts.

and other than the weakness with the conrods is there anything else weak with the GSR's?? ie gearbox's,diffs, etc, etc


cheers,
Dan

 

[ZedEx]

If your getting it as a rally car you would prolly be better off just getting a cheap rally registration evo instead.

 

[mimmo_gsr]

Hey Dan,

The best person to speak to about this is a guy called Shaun Urquhart who has rallied a GSR Lancer.

[email protected]

http://www.rallysport.aust.com/gonebush/index.htm

GSR

EVO I

There are some vids and pics in there of his GSR rally car.

He told me in the past that the GSR makes a fantastic rally car for gravel events due to its smaller turbo, and nimbleness of the car.

The drivetrain in the GSR is as good as whats in the EVOs apart from say the Steel selector forks in the EVO and the possibility of an LSD diff.

Parts wise everything can be bought from brand new from Mitsubishi, not that a lot of the parts would be usable. Suspension wise you would use DMS stuts or the like. There is a limit on the level and type of modifications that are allowed in the ARC and most state championships.

Cheaper to repair than an EVO, and as both run 34mm restrictors the net effect on the GSR is less due to the smaller capacity engine. As quick as an early EVO if driven properly, and even as quick as some of the later ones. GSR is quicker down low also when compared to the EVO.

The HP associated with an EVO Rally car is useless in events under 160km/h, it actually makes the engine work harder than necessary.

I was in a similar situation a while ago so I contacted Shaun and he was able to talk me through the pros and cons of a GSR as a rally car as opposed to an early EVO. His main point was to go for a 'prepared' rally car rather then to do it yourself. There isn't that much saving to have, and you don't generally get a spares package with a car you prep yourself.

A preped GSR would cost around $35 000 compared to a good EVO of around $45 000 - $50 000.


Hope this helps

Mimmo

 

[Rally_dan]

cheers for that Mimmo. ive actually got a Rally car now just looking to upgrade. and also co-driving in state and ARC events. there is a GSR rally car already prepared that im looking at, at the moment just doing a bit of research before hand.

 

[targa_gsr]

useful info.

Hi guys,

I'm guessing you're talking about that GSR rally car that was advertised for $10,500.

I spent 12 months shopping for Evo rally cars both here in Oz and in Japan at the auctions before purchasing my 'GSR'.

There are a lot of things you need to consider before purchasing ie. vehicle classing for events, competitors, driving skill, setup and condition of the car etc. But besides all that lets talk about the cars....

A lot of the pre-prepared rally cars I looked at and test drove had been thrashed. Including most of the ones in Japan and Thailand. I was offered an ex-Rally of Thailand champion winning car from Ralliart that had only rallied for 1 season for about $10k aus. As you will be aware - reliability is what makes the difference in rally events. What's the use if you fork out $5k entry fee only to retire on the 3rd stage. It's all about where your priorities lie.

Our teams priorities are:
1 - finish the rally
2 - be as fast as possible

We found our GSR which we converted from street to rally to be the best choice. Granted it's cost an extra $15k (new gearbox, running gear, engine, rollcage, seats, electronics etc.) to prepare but everything is brand new and we have never suffered from reliability problems like a lot of other teams out there and we still are extremely competitive - recently setting 15th fastest time in ARC at Forest Rally. And all of this is done in a light and nimble 1.8ltr GSR. Evo's are more powerful - boo hoo! That doesn't mean anything when your sideways through a corner at 70km/ph. Power is nothing without handling. We have found that we are quicker and more nimble than more powerful evos and stis by setting up the handling and weight distribution of the car to make best use of the power we have.

It was embarasing for the other teams running Evo 7s, 6.5s and WRX Stis that either were slower than us or blowing engines, snapping driveshafts etc.

At the end of the day it depends upon what your budget is, what events you want to do and also how reliable you want the car to be or whether yo're willing to take risks.

If you buy a prepared rally car, be ready to spend at least $10k on misc things fixing it up to make it reliable. Or if you build one yourself be prepared to spend about the same again... much of a muchness really.

These are just my observations and hints, everyone has different experiences so I guess people will have different opinions.

Although I think a few of the guys at Forest Rally that we beat are thinking of buying GSRs now and trading in their STis and Evos HAHA :lol:

 

[BobWrinkle]

Just out of intrest was that 15th overall or 15th privateer? If overall how did you stack up vs privateers?

 

[targa_gsr]

Without high-jacking this topic 15th was overall (give or take a few places as times changed).