my posts about fic injectors are based on my own experiences. a brand new set of 650's that did not outflow the 560's they replaced. problems from the get go. fic's responces, or lack thereof, and seeing numerous other posts AFTER i had problems. fic flow rates are based on their OWN standards, not the international standards like denso. fic flow rates are less than what they say, denso are more. fic injectors are inconsistent. if you are tuning a big motor, you need MORE consistency, not less. if you want to cheap out on injectors, then have tuning problems down the road, have at it. fic injectors? i wouldnt piss in your ear if your brain was on fire.
fic/delphi/pte/rochester are all the same. dunno what has happened, but delphi went tits up. i heard that bosch was going to buy the building. there was a huge bruhaha about delphi, something about them wanting to use the pension funds to help the company. i think gm owned delphi. and, i say this again. the ONLY reason you see so many of these pos f/d/p/r injectors is because of the bottom line. they are CHEAP. so, companies can make more profit on them. the old analogy, if you got a cheap car, put cheap injectors in. i think they are ok if you want only wot performance. but, if you want everyday performance, idle to wot, midrange, part throttle, etc, they suck. that's my story and i'm sticking to it.
on another note, when i was at ssf, there were a lot of reman fuel injection stuff from fic. they also sucked.
to refresh, i had BRAND NEW fic 650's. when i installed the evo 16g turbo, i installed the injectors. they replaced a set of cleaned and flowed evo 2 560's i got out of new zealand. at 18 lbs boost, even with water injection, they were near max duty cycle. i had problems tuning from the start. they were just inconsistent, and they flowed LESS up top than the 560's. keydiver chip, vpc, gcc, pocketlogger. seems like every time i did wot runs, the settings changed. low/mid settings also changed. it was like they were just not getting fuel(supra tt fuel pump). i just could not believe it was the injectors, because of all the good posts i had seen. then, i started to see some posts against the delphi's. i got a screaming deal on a fresh set of denso 660's, so i installed, and it was like night and day. settings were rock solid, EVEN WITH THE FIC 650 CHIP STILL IN THE ECU. i could do a wot log, and a week later, it would be the same. not so with the fic's. i complained to fic, and they were like, "so what?" fic? eat shit and die.
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