Product review: GTpumps E3 manifold

[GSRSOL]

Okey Dokey

purchased one of these this week. Received it 2 working days after ordering.

Firstly, it didnt fit. Me and Matress had to take to it with a die grinder for a good half-hour, to make it clear the RHS front engine mount bracket.

Secondly, the head flange was sooo thick that with a copper SCE gasket, i could not get the ARP stainless manifold studs to work, as they were simply not long enough. Standard studs are the go here.

The angle of the turbo flange is fine.
The gasket that comes with it is fine aswell - (what can i say? im an idiot :lol: )

Ill update how it goes once the car is up and running. :wink:

 

[Entaran]

Thanks for the honest reply. Moved to the Misc Tech section.

 

[tharaka]

hey dan
get a pic of the manifold attached showing the angle of the turbo flange

 

[matress]

you must be bloody frustrated mate!
i don't know if this manifold fits onto a VR4 without fouling on other bits and pieces, but we had to take a fair bit off with the angle grinder to make it fit Dan's motor.
I think having the thick flange is a good thing so that the flange doesn't bend/warp/etc. I think the fault there lies in the manifold studs, why the thread doesn't go all the way to the end of the stud, I have no idea! There is a good 6mm from the end of the stud to where the thread starts, which of course means you can't do the nuts up because there's no thread!!!
that gasket it came with is bullshit too! it doesn't even come close to matching up with the ports and stud holes on the manifold. There is not a chance in hell you could make that gasket fit a VR4 head.

 

[tharaka]

you must be bloody frustrated mate!
i don't know if this manifold fits onto a VR4 without fouling on other bits and pieces, but we had to take a fair bit off with the angle grinder to make it fit Dan's motor.
I think having the thick flange is a good thing so that the flange doesn't bend/warp/etc. I think the fault there lies in the manifold studs, why the thread doesn't go all the way to the end of the stud, I have no idea! There is a good 6mm from the end of the stud to where the thread starts, which of course means you can't do the nuts up because there's no thread!!!
that gasket it came with is bullshit too! it doesn't even come close to matching up with the ports and stud holes on the manifold. There is not a chance in hell you could make that gasket fit a VR4 head.

i think the studs dont have thread on the last 6mm so that you can remove it easily
and you dont have to keep unscrewing it unnecessarily


also, for a gasket that important, use a geniune mitsubishi one

 

[AUSVR4]

thats terrible. you should have called GTPumps for feedback before you put it on. maybe they put a GSR or Cordia manifold flange with the manifold by mistake?

 

[matress]

according to the photos on the website, the gasket pictured next to where it says "vr4/evo" is the one Dan has.
the cordia/starion one below it is completely different.

 

[3zercrowd]

They were supposed to fit straight onto the vr4,evo1,2,3 manifold no worries :shock: Whats the go?.........

Chat to you on msn Dan....

 

[AUSVR4]

hmm we really need feedback from the supplier on this. I was going to get a gasket set and oil lines from GTPumps

 

[bazeng]

Firstly, it didnt fit. Me and Matress had to take to it with a die grinder for a good half-hour, to make it clear the RHS front engine mount bracket.

thats the same with the evo manifold going to a vr4, u still have to grind stuff out

thats bs with the studs though...
easter weekend also so you'll be waiting a while before u get some studs for it..

maybe you could drill into the manifold flange holes and thin out the flange where it bolts to the head.. (warranty is an issue though)

 

[Jonson]

thanks for the heads up mate, sorry it came at your expense though. i was going to order one on thursday. email GT pumps and see what they can do. ive heard that he/they are good enough guys. and there is no way they would want to leave you unhappy seeing your on team4g.com.....and almost all of their products are made for 4G's!

 

[BobWrinkle]

Seems like a good thing that the group buy fell through...

 

[GSRSOL]

hey dan
get a pic of the manifold attached showing the angle of the turbo flange

i cant, ill have to wait till tuesday now to get some more studs.

maybe you could drill into the manifold flange holes and thin out the flange where it bolts to the head.. (warranty is an issue though)

that would be a bastard of a job..... youd have to make the seats for the bolts wide enough to get a 10mm sprocket into to be able to tighten them. Me and matty were actually considering trying to shave down the flange around each hole, but then that kind of defeast the purpose of haveing such a think flange in the first place!


the stainless studs are awesome, but theyre just not long enough with this manifold. ill get some pics up today so you can all see....

 

[GSRSOL]

Close up grinder duties

From directly above, manifold on level ground - u can see the angle of the turbo flange...... :?

 

[tharaka]

wow
that gasket is farked

 

[Jonson]

fuck! not even close. there shouldnt be an angle on the manifold the turbo should be sitting straight not angled. well thats what mine is like.
poossibly u just got a dud? but yeah definately need to get into contact with GT.

 

[WRCVR4]

Are the ports on the head the same size as the gasket or the Mani ??

 

[bazeng]

hey mate
thats pretty normal with the gasket thing dude

my turbonetics is way off also..
but u gotta remember that the vr4 head ports are smaller than the gasket and also smaller than the exhaust manifold.. therefor, as long as the manifold ports are bigger and dont cause a edge for the flow, then it shouldn't matter..

 

[GSRSOL]

hey mate
thats pretty normal with the gasket thing dude

my turbonetics is way off also..
but u gotta remember that the vr4 head ports are smaller than the gasket and also smaller than the exhaust manifold.. therefor, as long as the manifold ports are bigger and dont cause a edge for the flow, then it shouldn't matter..

baz the holes dont even match up! i cant even get that gasket onto the head.......

the sce copper gasket i have here fits perfect, but is also nearly .5mm thick.

 

[BobWrinkle]

sure the gasket wasn't backwards