Running rich and getting no power

[EV0300]

Ok as part of starting with a few "Basic" mods i decided to put a pod filter onto my car, little did i know it was going to set me back 3-4 weeks without driving my car and who knows how much in $. (kinda wishes i left the airbox on)
ok so I started it up and took it for a test drive to listen to the new note and i was shocked to find i was revving out at round 5.5k and i had no power also it is running very rich with alot of black smoke. I came to the conclusion it could have been the air flow meter because they are fragile and i kinda had to knock it abit to get the back end of the box off it because the plastic had oxidised and was weak so the bolts threaded.
So i bought a brand new Air flow meter and put it on, nothing has changed i dont understand whats happening. Could it be in some sort of safe mode or something? if so how can i turn it off? or has anyone ever had any similar problems and have input?
another idea i came up with is maybe it could be the knock sensor but i dont know how that would fail by putting a pod on?
any help would be MUCH appreciated.
Peace.


i think i put this in the wrong place could an admin please move it? cheers

 

[EVOCPE]

Why did u throw a pod filter on the car?? the car wont make more power... from my experience the standard box made way more power than a pod, unless the pod is in an enclosed box

As for the problem, it sounds wierd.... does it idle ok?? and does it rev on idle without dramas??

 

[EV0300]

Why did u throw a pod filter on the car?? the car wont make more power... from my experience the standard box made way more power than a pod, unless the pod is in an enclosed box

As for the problem, it sounds wierd.... does it idle ok?? and does it rev on idle without dramas??

yeah i only put it on to get a better note, its n ot enclosed atm but plans to do it. as for the problem yeah its idleing fine and it revs fine but im limited its cuts out at around 5.5k instead of going up over 7 (not that i rev it to 7).

 

[marbs]

what pod adapter are u using? if ure using an adapter thats covering ANY part of the of the honeycomb on the air flow meter, it will make the car run like you've described... chuck the stock air box and panel filter back in to see if this fixes it... if it does, then i dare say its your pod filter adapter....

 

[EV0300]

thanks mate ill gve it a go

 

[khubner1]

pods have been known to cause turbulent airflow on these and as a result dont pass an acurate signal to the afm.

 

[cbgsr]

Check what adaptor has been used you will find alot cover majority of the sensor take the pod of and have a look inside while the adaptor is still on there .If needed you may have to cut out the adaptor to suit

 

[EV0300]

what pod adapter are u using? if ure using an adapter thats covering ANY part of the of the honeycomb on the air flow meter, it will make the car run like you've described... chuck the stock air box and panel filter back in to see if this fixes it... if it does, then i dare say its your pod filter adapter....

mate all i have to say to you sir is your a f'n legend, i got a different adapter one that sits off the honeycombs and its beautiful.
My hat is off to you.

 

[EVOCPE]

post pics of the ones u used, so others can learn

 

[EV0300]

post pics of the ones u used, so others can learn

i post a pic of the one i used soon but heres the bad one that drove me to insanity. It covered a large area of the honeycombs (very bad).

 

[LWNSLW]

i know its not hard to do is the afm around the right way???

 

[EV0300]

i know its not hard to do is the afm around the right way???

haha yeah it is, problems all sorted too, back to being happy again yay

 

[LWNSLW]

What was the problem???

 

[cbgsr]

mate all i have to say to you sir is your a f'n legend, i got a different adapter one that sits off the honeycombs and its beautiful.
My hat is off to you.

to easy glad i could help, have seen this done a few times .

 

[cbgsr]

mate all i have to say to you sir is your a f'n legend, i got a different adapter one that sits off the honeycombs and its beautiful.
My hat is off to you.

to easy glad i could help, have seen this done a few times .

 

[marbs]

no probs glad i could help

 

[milkandoj]

What was the problem???

The air is channeled through the center of the afm more with that adapter so more of it passes over the sensor, so less even flow over the other channels that are unmetered in the afm, than in a stock setup, so the reading is inflated, runs rich.

i tried this when dialing in my car, with not adapter and filter for a test lap, the setting is downloaded from ecmlink for my afm were almost perfect, put the adapter on with my pod and i dialed it in totally different. The 3 inch adapters are shit like that, i have a 4 inch adapter that looks much better as they cover the whole cross section of the afm, intake.
Running a 4 inch adapter would be the go to fix the problem of the smaller adapters. Its a pod not a panel still so turbulence ect ect apprently, i still recon you'd be much closer, i was almost perfectly hitting my afm targets with ecmlink stock settings for that afm with it just exposed to the open air as a trial run, so no panel or pod filter before it.