ive never been public about the way i feel about these guys.. but i think this is pushing it abit hard..
http://www.evolutionoz.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=26662&st=0&gopid=384404&#entry384404
http://www.evolutionoz.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=26662&st=0&gopid=384404&#entry384404