Vipec Engine Management

[bazeng]

I agree with both.

A good example is HONDATA.
Stock ECU with an add on board does as much as an aftermarket ecu can do.. if not more!!

Not sure how far you can go with the evo7 ecu's, but openecu supports quite a few of the newer ecu's...

The sweet benifit of staying with a stock ecu is the need not to wire up the engine again...

but in this case, libs will need to make up a new engine loom.. unless libs plans on tapping into the stock loom...

as for evo7 ecu in an evo1-3, are the sensors compatible or definable?
the newer ecu's use crank sensors correct? as for the 1-3, cam sensors.... or do they use both?

can you define your input triggers with the evo7 ecu's?

 

[Liberoz]

Lets just say there's no modification of wiring loom to ecu at all
when the times right all will be revealed but lets just say that the E7 Ecu shits all over the ce9a ecu's tuning capacity's and there's alot more goodies we are trying to sort out to use also on the ce9a motor.

 

[the_phoenix]

Lets just say there's no modification of wiring loom to ecu at all
when the times right all will be revealed but lets just say that the E7 Ecu shits all over the ce9a ecu's tuning capacity's and there's alot more goodies we are trying to sort out to use also on the ce9a motor.

Certainly an interesting route to take, not an obvious one at all. I'm sure you know exactly what you are doing and have contacts who are clued up in regards to ECUs and sensors. If this is a world first then all the better.

Back on topic... If you don't care about all the mod cons then stand alone is the way to go.

 

[D3bb4]

Just to bring this up again guys:

Anybody used this Vi Pec unit?

Am considering a V44 for my galant - got quoted at $2.5-2.6k installed and tuned from TM autosports, or $1.8k for microtech...
It's about 3k mark, maybe a little more for a wolf V500 installed and tuned from redline rotary;
Haltech E6X for about 2.6-2.8k from CRD, else the E11V2 for about 500 more.

For fairly modded galant; what would people recommend? Microtech is a shitload cheaper, but i'm not sure it's as reliable as other units.

Thanks.

 

[Lister]

IMO the tuning resolution in the microtech is lacking compared to other units on the market, and offers slightly less in the driveability stakes.

 

[peasoup]

I might be going for a Vipec soon, will let you know.

 

[bazeng]

Debba,
I'd go for the V44 or the other option, SM4 for about the 3k mark installed and tuned.

Peasoup, if you want to give Springy Motors a shot, Dan is good friends with Ray Hall and Ray asked them to start selling/using the VIPEC's but he turned it down due to being an Autronic Guy.

Anyway, Give him a call and see if he can beat the price that your getting from that other mob..

 

[peasoup]

Thanks but I deal with JPC they are the sole Vic distributor and long time Autronic guys, so they will know these very well. They did a V88 on a VL a few weeks back, said it was quick to tune.

Can you get a plugin for the VR4, my car has a GSR loom, but I'm assuming an EVO plugin Vipec should plug straight up?

 

[bazeng]

Which evo?

I'm not sure about the evo pinouts vs the gsr pinouts.

From memory the EVO 4 plug is very close to the EVO 1-2-3.

 

[peasoup]

well Vipec do a plugin for every EVO, and as far as I am aware my current Link plug in is an EVO one.

 

[D3bb4]

Debba,
I'd go for the V44 or the other option, SM4 for about the 3k mark installed and tuned.

Peasoup, if you want to give Springy Motors a shot, Dan is good friends with Ray Hall and Ray asked them to start selling/using the VIPEC's but he turned it down due to being an Autronic Guy.

Anyway, Give him a call and see if he can beat the price that your getting from that other mob..

Am a bit iffy about the vipec, as is relatively new to the market. The wolf has lifetime warrenty, and apparently very good customer support - for about same price bracket. Might see how much autronic is, but places round here dont seem to be very cheap at all!

 

[i2obert]

Just get a link G4

http://www.tfelectronics.com.au/ < are the people who make the Link G4

TFelec RAY Hall owns hence why the vipec is 99% the same as the link G4 from what i have read on NZ sites there may be a law suit going on but dont qoute me on that

nut yeah price of link is cheaper installed then a vipec and they have the same features

just search google vipec ECU and read all the threads on it there are heaps and lots of good info

 

[peasoup]

Vipec is closely related to Autronic. Vipec Forum is a good place to start.

 

[DOUGMO]

Vipec is closely related to Autronic. Vipec Forum is a good place to start.

yep the vipec is from ray hall, it has a similar tuning method to autronic so that the current dealers can still tune it well

 

[i2obert]

vipec and Link program is 99% the same the only diff is one says vipec one says link

download both programs to see

 

[bazeng]

That is right,

Link = VIPEC.

RAY HALL = AUTRONIC (was autronic)

He may have combined both and made his own product.
but the ECU itself is based on the LINK.

Unless the LINK copied the Autronic??

 

[i2obert]

here is some info for you

Autronic Engine Management Systems continues as it was, albiet with one less distributor, but still with an innovative and developing productline, a slightly altered dealer support structure and a new web site to develop.
(Come on guys - get it going!!!)

Ray Hall, as I understand it, has never been "part" of Autronic, but does own TF Electronics.
I think Ray was a significant Autronic distributor for many years, but has been terminated and is no longer attached in any way to Autronic.
(That is unless you consider legal matters if my reading of the forums is correct.)
As another forum post put it - "some people, including Ray Hall, thought Ray Hall was Autronic" which was never the case, perceptions aren't everthing it seems.

As a distributor Ray developed the original Autronic.com website to primarily support his own customer base, although allowed selective access by others. As the author of a work retains copyright to that work, that's why the ViPEC website looks like the old Autronic website, it's the same website code with ViPEC content. Given that RH and TF Electronics are distibuting the rebadged LINK ECUs under the VIiPEC brand name, the website similarities are hardly surprising, but could be considered misleading as there is no connection between Autronic and ViPEC/Link.
(Wish RH luck, new products always bring new challenges)

TO bzchi:- it seems you have a good memory, there was a connection between Autronic and MoTec in the distant past, but it may not be what you think it was.

MoTech at one stage was a partnership between the Technical Developer/Engineer and a Marketing Manager.
When the partnership was dissolved, the Technical Developer/Engineer retained the Product Line and the Technology. That original MoTec product line was extensively redeveloped and extended, and relaunched under the Autronic banner and what we currently know as Autronic Engine Management Systems.
The Marketing Manager retained the MoTec name, which was subsequently applied to a different company and product currently known under the MoTec Brand. There is no connection between the Autronic (original MoTec) ECUs and the current, separately developed MoTec ECUs.