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Hey guys,

Just wondiner how much info/experience anybody on here has with this ECU or tuner?

Am considering investing in a vipec ecu, and getting it done through Insight, just iffy right now, as it's a big ass investment. (~$3250 installed and tuned)

Looking to use the car mostly as a runabout, hopefully will see some track days. Hoping the ECU might also solve idle issues that have surfaced after DSM link alledgedly shat itself, has since had a Meek chip installed. Ran sweet when chip was initially put in, has since screwed up. Thinking/hoping new computer might solve all these issues.

Thoughts/opinions?

Thanks.
 
I believe it is a good unit. Software is a copy of the AUTRONIC software. The unit itself is a rebranded LINK ecu for NZ.

Meant to be capable.

What car exactly?
For that price, you should be able to get an AUTRONIC SM4 installed and tuned.

Do they have a plugin?

Something cheaper but also decent would be haltech/wolf/adaptronic?

As for the tuner, not too sure.
 
just whored their site,

the software is identical to the links, meaning the ecu is just a link.

which means its good :)
 
bazeng said:
I believe it is a good unit. Software is a copy of the AUTRONIC software. The unit itself is a rebranded LINK ecu for NZ.

Meant to be capable.

What car exactly?
For that price, you should be able to get an AUTRONIC SM4 installed and tuned.

Do they have a plugin?

Something cheaper but also decent would be haltech/wolf/adaptronic?

As for the tuner, not too sure.
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TM Autosports has told me that it's *not* a LINK... but forums seem to all say that it is??? So it's a link with similar-to-autronic software? :huh:

It's not a plugin, but the price is for a modified adaptor harness, using stock ECU plug I presume, with new sensors fitted, factory loom.

Wolf was the other option I was looking at, but the V500 in Sydney, the only 4wd dyno places have quoted me about 3.2k installed and tuned as well? And tuner feedback, other than from specific dealers seems to be not great. (That said, Alex from redline rotary swears by them, and I have alot of respect for him as a tuner - but he's only got a 2wd dyno)
Wolf have a good reputation afaik, as does autronic... but everybody seems to be swearing by the new vipecs, so I'm a bit confused and not wanting to buy an ECU that's going to be outdated in a few years.
Microtech can be installed and tuned for 1.8k, but with 500rpm tuning intervals and how much have spent buying this car, I want to make sure get the right **** for it, and 2k compared to 3 isn't worth the difference probably.

Car it's for is what used to be "ausvr4" in SA.

2.3L stroker, 272 cams/adjustable gears, holset HX35 turbo, eboost controller, evo 8 MR injectors.
 
Sorry to go off topic but if you want to make the best of the HX35 I'd be getting larger injectors than 560's.
Did this car used to have Dsmlink in it? Have you considered the new version? Easy install and tune.
 
I'd be more interested in going over possible reasons for things screwing up/ shitting themselves, and getting those resolved before possibly masking a problem with another/ different ecu.
 
Meek has said the idle problem is likely due to the TPS or vac lines or something common/easy to fix. Guys at Insight told me that the new ECU would detect sensor issues, and would be easy to diagnose/fix. If i can fix all the issues in 1 hit, I'd prefer that to blowing money fixing an issue that the new ECU would fix anyways. (I'm a uni student :p)

I'm planning to put larger injectors in eventually, but at the moment, have had nothing but issues with the car since I bought it, so I want to fix them 1st.
 
Yeah but what would be worse say the tps is dead, and it screws the 3k computer..... That would be massively awesome.
 
A screwed tps shouldn't take out an aftermarket computer. Not sure about the stock one though.

I personally swear by Autronic.

What you need to do is find a few cars with these ECU's fitted and have a look at how they run.

Look at dyno graphs with different ECUs in them and you can pretty see how controllable they are (depending on the tuner and setup of the car also) but a nicely setup ECU and engine package will be visable on a dyno graph.

Keep in mind tuning times. A wolf for example will take alot longer than a motec / autronic so the initial saving for the ecu will be more costly in tuning and trouble shooting etc.
 
A tps won't take out a computer, a screwed ISC can and has.
Unplug the isc and see if it makes any difference to your idle issue.
No point throwing money at a problem when it could be a very simple fix.
What EXACTLY is the car doing?
 
D3bb4 said:
TM Autosports has told me that it's *not* a LINK... but forums seem to all say that it is??? So it's a link with similar-to-autronic software? :huh:
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its 100% link, what they are saying is crap.

look at the ecu photo's at the home pages.

http://www.linkecu.com/
http://www.vi-pec.com/

the software is LINK's software, its not Autronic's. i have heard tuners say that LINK's tuning software is similar in structure/feel to Autronics.

I am running a LINK G3 and i am very happy with the result, especially since reading this thread made me check for firmware updates for my ecu and i have now found out the updated my ecu to do AutoTune :)

you cant go wrong with either a LINK or a ViPEC.

but in saying that, when chosing an ecu take into consideration who's tuning your car afterwards.

the best ecu in the world will be junk if its not tuned right.
 
Just to clarify to, if you are getting a Link o Vipec, get the plugin, no need to get a new loom installed and pay more for the higher end ECU.
 
I've read a few forumn on the vipec units, and can't find **** other than opinions. Skylines aus seems to have alot of people saying how good the V88 is... but i'm looking at a V44...

Only **** i can find comparing autronic to vipec is a comment about how the vipec dedicates the processor to idle control, and that it can get drag cars idling nicely, where as other units cannot. But there's more to a tune than idle, so this still doesn't help me :p

Vipec forums seem to have only photos of the customer cars, not of the actual dyno graphs, so it's not so easy to see/compare graphs.

Maybe is best ringing around tuners again? There don't seem to be many vipec or autronic dealers in sydney. Nor many awd dyno places.
 
Get on EVO Oz, they give Vipec a big wrap

What you want is the Vipec Plugin, also known as a V64.

http://www.vi-pec.com/page_files/pluginecu.htm

ViPEC_Features.png
 
D3bb4, how about searching for information on a Link G4 Storm, its just a ViPEC V88...

the specs of the V44 are the same as a Link Plus G3 (same as mine), if you ask me questions about it, i can give you first hand information...

and ask tuners if they have done LINK's, seeing as thats just a ViPEC...
 
Only seems to really be the one quote from ray hall stating that the processor in the autronic is dated compared ot it's features/cannot support them, whilst the vipec/link uses a processor twice as fast.

Am still confused if they are exactly the same as link or not, and if they are exactly the same, I'd be trying to find a cheaper one. The V44 is about 1700, and has no knock sensor. I think it's about $500 more for the V88, but haven't checked yet, and there's bugger all prices floating around online!
 
lets put it this way,

ViPEC has to be a LINK as the software is identical, even the version numbers of the software to tune the ECU's is the same. The ecu case is the same, specs, electrical plugs, even the two little LED holes in the cases are the same, everythings identical. there isnt much to be confused about.

The best thing about all this is, ViPEC means it will be supported very well.You have Ray Hall in one hand, and in the other LINK support, which i found to be A class.

You can buy LINKS easily through trademe,

Link G4 Storm (ViPEC V88) $1800NZD

When i brought my LINK i didnt even consider a plugin, as they are basically a watered down version (no knock as you said) of the mid range ecu (a LEM G3/V44 now) so i brought the top of the line (Link Plus G3) with all the accessories (AIT, Ignitors, Harness, 5 Bar Map, Coils).

it wouldnt be too hard to make a patch harness like the guy in the above thread did for a V88/Storm then you get everything.

base map was really good for my car (and others too apparently) started first pop.
 
to4garret said:
lets put it this way,

ViPEC has to be a LINK as the software is identical, even the version numbers of the software to tune the ECU's is the same. The ecu case is the same, specs, electrical plugs, even the two little LED holes in the cases are the same, everythings identical. there isnt much to be confused about.

The best thing about all this is, ViPEC means it will be supported very well.You have Ray Hall in one hand, and in the other LINK support, which i found to be A class.

You can buy LINKS easily through trademe,

Link G4 Storm (ViPEC V88) $1800NZD

When i brought my LINK i didnt even consider a plugin, as they are basically a watered down version (no knock as you said) of the mid range ecu (a LEM G3/V44 now) so i brought the top of the line (Link Plus G3) with all the accessories (AIT, Ignitors, Harness, 5 Bar Map, Coils).

it wouldnt be too hard to make a patch harness like the guy in the above thread did for a V88/Storm then you get everything.

base map was really good for my car (and others too apparently) started first pop.
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1800NZD is bout 1450 here I think, which is awesome compared to vipec. I'll call around tomorrow, see if anybody is willing to match it, as that's about the V44 price. :)

Did you need more parts/accessories than those that come with the units?
 

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