what to get with new p plate laws
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melbourne sounds shitty compared to adelaide, was up at mount lofty, a place in teh adelaide hills where lots of people cruise too.. so many defectable cars there.. cops drive through make sure nothing bad is happening and off they went.. sounds fucked up over in vic:S
oh and there was this maddd 1J chaser up there. omg they look pimped
oh and there was this maddd 1J chaser up there. omg they look pimped
iluszn any cop can search a vehicle if they have reasonable cause. The correct terminology is reasonable cause to suspect. Basically you say no, they get a warrant as you have said. Gunna get searched no matter what. ot nothing to find got nothing to worry about 
. Under Section 36 of LEPRA police can enter a vehicle and conduct a search without a warrant if the vehicle contains anything used or intended to be used in or in connection with the commission of a relevant offence.
. Under Section 36 of LEPRA police can enter a vehicle and conduct a search without a warrant if the vehicle contains anything used or intended to be used in or in connection with the commission of a relevant offence.
GSR70Y
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Don't forget the humble 4G92 MIVEC !!!!!
iluszn
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Cheers Lister
Randomly searching a vehicle must have permission or warrant.
Is different if you are suspect ina crime, or your vehicle was seen leaving the scene of a crime.
Point i was making that if a cop just starts looking through your belongings you have the right to say no and ask them to obtain a warrant to do so.
Its a pain for both parties and if you dont have anything to hide then you would say no problems.
But the short version is.
Cop can not look through your car without you permission or paper work.
This has happened to a friend of mine. He had nothing to hide but they just started searching his car without cause. It was random.
Randomly searching a vehicle must have permission or warrant.
Is different if you are suspect ina crime, or your vehicle was seen leaving the scene of a crime.
Point i was making that if a cop just starts looking through your belongings you have the right to say no and ask them to obtain a warrant to do so.
Its a pain for both parties and if you dont have anything to hide then you would say no problems.
But the short version is.
Cop can not look through your car without you permission or paper work.
This has happened to a friend of mine. He had nothing to hide but they just started searching his car without cause. It was random.
MiiCha3ll said:
Why not conform to the law. It really isn't that hard is it?
Don't buy a car your not allowed to have.
As people have mentioned some scenarios lets look at another one.
I doubt very much that you will be able to get insurance as your not legally allowed to drive the car in Victoria. You think thats ok I will put it in my mums name. You then take the car out and being 18 and indestructible you crash the car seriously injuring yourself and maybe your passenger.
You then have no insurance, the car is written off, your mum will end up with a bill for the other cars or power pole you have crashed into and you have proven the exact reason why P platers are not meant to have turbo v8 cars when on your P's
Yes I am stereo typing you. Don't take it personally.
Get something which is within the restrictions and actually learn how to drive. By drive I don't mean cornering etc I mean awareness respect and judging conditions. It isn't all about going fast!
Before anyone mentions it yes I know you can crash any car your in.
ultimate C*nt would say no even tho they had nothing to hide, making cops obtain a warrent due to suspicion of something wrong and in the end nothing was wrong, suspect knowing it all along.
could a cop pin you for something like that if they were a C*nt cop? cause everyone knows there are C*nt cops
* to the post above im 17 and i will be turboing soon, im not a dickhead and i respect cars because its something i have came to love, some people actually dont fall into the sterotype your characterising..
i got a perfect 100 for my p test(meh like it was hard) and anyway whether your 30 and you ahve never driven a turbo car or your 17 and never driven a turbo car. you really think its going to make a difference, both parties immune to high powered driving therefore practically the same chance of something happening.
Matt
could a cop pin you for something like that if they were a C*nt cop? cause everyone knows there are C*nt cops
* to the post above im 17 and i will be turboing soon, im not a dickhead and i respect cars because its something i have came to love, some people actually dont fall into the sterotype your characterising..
i got a perfect 100 for my p test(meh like it was hard) and anyway whether your 30 and you ahve never driven a turbo car or your 17 and never driven a turbo car. you really think its going to make a difference, both parties immune to high powered driving therefore practically the same chance of something happening.
Matt
iluszn
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Hypo.. you can crash any car your in.....
But yes. learn the roads, learn how a car behaves in different conditions, Learn how to drive in different conditions.
Its better you get a cheap reliable car to learn in, your bound to bump, nudge and knock things,
Also think of this.
Owning a performance vehicle means you will always be upgrading or fixing something. Why not save your hard earned pennies for a few years. Then you can go buy a brand new evo.
But yes. learn the roads, learn how a car behaves in different conditions, Learn how to drive in different conditions.
Its better you get a cheap reliable car to learn in, your bound to bump, nudge and knock things,
Also think of this.
Owning a performance vehicle means you will always be upgrading or fixing something. Why not save your hard earned pennies for a few years. Then you can go buy a brand new evo.
mattrat said:
If you read my post you will notice that I referenced driving skills.
Awareness respect and conditions. Anyone can go fast in a straight line.
I think your reference to getting 100% on your P test is a perfect example of someone who thinks they know it all.
I am sure that you never do anything irresponsible on the street and always consider the consequences of your actions, if you do fantastic if not it is only exacerbated by a more powerful car.
i was just stating that you can drive all you want, but when you hop into the seat of a 200kw + car, those normal cars you have driven for the last 10 years gives no pre requisits to those needed in a high perfirmance car..
and by your i think i know it all..
i dont comprehend, obviosuly i wouldnt be visiting these forums daily if i didnt want to learn everything there was about these cars everyone on here loves..
dont judge a book by its cover man
and by your i think i know it all..
i dont comprehend, obviosuly i wouldnt be visiting these forums daily if i didnt want to learn everything there was about these cars everyone on here loves..
dont judge a book by its cover man
mattrat said:
Do you seriously believe that a driver who has been driving for 10+ years will be know better off then a P plate driver in a high performance car who got his license the day before?
If so I think your logic is slightly flawed.
Just out of curiosity why are you turbo charging you car and are you affiliated with a CAMS sanctioned car club because I am assuming that not being a "dickhead" as you said in your post you don't do anything in an uncontrolled environment.
im just saying, driving is possibly one of the easiest things you will attempt and conquer during your life, by you saying one day i did not mean that, at least a year if your were mid 17's nearly 18. i seriously belive that an older driver as such having never driven a high performance car before, would still have trouble, they would be double thinking the usual decision they would make.. you wont learn any other way, whether its now or in 10 years, much the same.
anyway i dont be stupid on the road, i drive and have fun cruising with my mates,
that question is almostasking every person on this forum why do you want a turbo car?
your questions are stupid.
and this is just going nowhere were supposed to be helping someone.
soz
Matt
anyway i dont be stupid on the road, i drive and have fun cruising with my mates,
that question is almostasking every person on this forum why do you want a turbo car?
your questions are stupid.
and this is just going nowhere were supposed to be helping someone.
soz
Matt
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I think the issue here Matt is...as statistics go and from life experiences that its more of a responsibility thing,ie that young drivers are more likely to cross the line a little in order to impress others,or find a bit of a thrill without thinking or considering other road users...and i am not saying that you may fit into this category,but I know that I did when i was that age as i was an absolute idiot on the road when i first got my licence and was lacking in experience and never shoulod have been allowed to be wheeling a high powered car.
Looking back is rather scary and i consider myself luck to not have been killed or worse still..taken some poor innocent road user out, a couple of my best mates were not so lucky with their lives cut tragically short due to lack of experience and speed..as no doubt a lot of people on this site have been touched by close ones being lost to car accidents that had some contributing factor that could have been avoided
My point of view is that experience and responsibility need to be gained before young drivers are driving high performance cars.
Looking back is rather scary and i consider myself luck to not have been killed or worse still..taken some poor innocent road user out, a couple of my best mates were not so lucky with their lives cut tragically short due to lack of experience and speed..as no doubt a lot of people on this site have been touched by close ones being lost to car accidents that had some contributing factor that could have been avoided
My point of view is that experience and responsibility need to be gained before young drivers are driving high performance cars.
driving a turbo car on your P's illegally?
thats stupid.
We are stereotyping you because of your age. simple as that, its the law.
If you don't like it, give Kevin Rudd buzz.
there a exemptions for those who lucky enough to buy their car before the new rules (like every other s13 and wrx) , but that doenst mean you (the new P platers) can get one too.
thats stupid.
No, this is helping someone.
We are stereotyping you because of your age. simple as that, its the law.
If you don't like it, give Kevin Rudd buzz.
there a exemptions for those who lucky enough to buy their car before the new rules (like every other s13 and wrx) , but that doenst mean you (the new P platers) can get one too.
iluszn
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as above (Marintowing)
agree with age/experience.
I wouldnt do half the shit i used to do now.. knowing a bit better and thinking a little more of the consequences.
And possibly would have helped me not having a turbo charged/performance car as my first car..
Maybe i would have more money now
And yes, at the moment, in Vic, I can say that if you were pulled up in a car deemed illegible to be driven by a p-plater. You would get fined, points and have to have the car picked up or towed home and not allowed to drive it.
Its the same deal with power/weight guidelines. A cop can make you get the car towed home or picked up by someone without the restriction.
In the end. its not our choice which car you should by. Weigh up the pros/cons of going legal and illegal. If you are happy to have a nice turbo vehicle and preppared to get fines etc and possibly have to sell the car anyhow then go for it.
Good Luck.
agree with age/experience.
I wouldnt do half the shit i used to do now.. knowing a bit better and thinking a little more of the consequences.
And possibly would have helped me not having a turbo charged/performance car as my first car..
Maybe i would have more money now
And yes, at the moment, in Vic, I can say that if you were pulled up in a car deemed illegible to be driven by a p-plater. You would get fined, points and have to have the car picked up or towed home and not allowed to drive it.
Its the same deal with power/weight guidelines. A cop can make you get the car towed home or picked up by someone without the restriction.
In the end. its not our choice which car you should by. Weigh up the pros/cons of going legal and illegal. If you are happy to have a nice turbo vehicle and preppared to get fines etc and possibly have to sell the car anyhow then go for it.
Good Luck.
It all comes down to the driver acting like an adult and taking responsibility for their actions and decisions. Drive what you want to drive, modify it how you want to modify it and drive it how you want to drive it. Just don't whinge, moan or bitch to us or your mummy and daddy if you end up losing your car, licence or life, or worse yet - killing/injuring somebody else.
If you get pulled over by the cops for whatever reason (justified or not) deal with it - if they want to search your car - so what? If they find that bleed-valve or pod filter or illegal mod - TOUGH! You did it knowing it might get you in trouble if found, so wear it on the chin like the adult you are. If you don't want anything to worry about - drive and mod your car within the law. Easy.
If you get pulled over by the cops for whatever reason (justified or not) deal with it - if they want to search your car - so what? If they find that bleed-valve or pod filter or illegal mod - TOUGH! You did it knowing it might get you in trouble if found, so wear it on the chin like the adult you are. If you don't want anything to worry about - drive and mod your car within the law. Easy.
you can get away with it but you need a family bussiness or your own
you just reg it as a company car and say its the only car that the company will give you and you can afford, vic roads has to allow it
my friend did it when he was 19, (driving a supercharged 350tpi 1988 corvette)
you will get pull over though but as long as you have the paperwork there will be no probs
you just reg it as a company car and say its the only car that the company will give you and you can afford, vic roads has to allow it
my friend did it when he was 19, (driving a supercharged 350tpi 1988 corvette)
you will get pull over though but as long as you have the paperwork there will be no probs
Dean
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listen to the man,ENGINR said:
he's right.
and trust me u will get pulled over...
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