4G63T Conversion - Flywheel query

[FiEND]

Just started doing a 4G63T conversion on a lancer cc, engine was originally bolted on to an auto transmission.

Was wondering what flywheel would match to a standard FWD lancer gearbox (originally had a 4G93T).

Are there any other flywheels that fit besides the evo flywheels ? Earlyer gsrs (2L N/A Versions ?)

Any help is appreciated .

Thanks in advance .

 

[EVO-00X]

The FWD NA Galants or Hyundai Lantra/Sonata would be the ones you should be looking for.

 

[EVO-00X]

The FWD NA Galants or Hyundai Lantra/Sonata would be the ones you should be looking for. If you have a VR4 4G63T engine get the 6 bolt flywheel, if you have an EVO 4G63T get the 7 bolt flywheel.

 

[FiEND]

The FWD NA Galants or Hyundai Lantra/Sonata would be the ones you should be looking for. If you have a VR4 4G63T engine get the 6 bolt flywheel, if you have an EVO 4G63T get the 7 bolt flywheel.

Thanks for the reply, the engine it's self is a 7 bolt engine.
The crank that came out of the 4g93 won't really fit ( stud diameter is smaller than the stud ), i've also purchased a clutch, and the design looks as tho the flywheel is meant to be lipped / dipped in to allow for the clutch to sit in, my current flywheel is flat, as in there's no dish in it, figured i needed a different one.

You mentioned galants or hyundais, is there any specific models ? Or am i looking for one with a dohc engine in it ?

Thanks again for your help .

 

[Muzz66]

Thanks for the reply, the engine it's self is a 7 bolt engine.
The crank that came out of the 4g93 won't really fit ( stud diameter is smaller than the stud ), i've also purchased a clutch, and the design looks as tho the flywheel is meant to be lipped / dipped in to allow for the clutch to sit in, my current flywheel is flat, as in there's no dish in it, figured i needed a different one.

You mentioned galants or hyundais, is there any specific models ? Or am i looking for one with a dohc engine in it ?

Thanks again for your help .

You will need the evo flywheel.The galant and hyundais mentioned are the n/a 4g63 twin cam for the galant not sure of engine # for hyundais but are basically the same as the galant.There are some older Evo I, 6 bolt flywheels still floating around I think someone may be able to clarify this.Now as for the FWD gearbox if it will suit the Evo clutch set up i am not sure,I'm sure one of the guys here will set you straight on this.When you do a major conversion like this you need to know exactly what you want and need before purchasing any gear.You nearly made an expensive mistake with your clutch purchase.You bought your clutch before you knew what type of flywheel you needed.Get a plan dude, it will save you money down the track.A single spinner FWD turbo will be an interesting drive. Good Luck and Happy Cruizin.

 

[EVO-00X]

Muzz he CANT use an EVO AWD flywheel as he wants to use a FWD gearbox. AWD flywheels dont fit inside the FWD bellhousing dude.

Fiend, you either have an EVO or RVR AWD engine by the looks of it being a 7-bolt crank. In that case just grab a flyweel of a normal stock manual transmission GLXi CC Lancer mate. If you cant find one another alternative is a FWD Mitsubishi Nimbus/Galant 4G64, or a 1995 FWD 2G Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T

 

[DOUGMO]

muzz,what boxx do you run in your car?

some one else might be able to clarify for you but i thought the awd flywheels were stepped and the fwd ones were flat and that they used different clutches.


EDIT:reads robs post above

 

[Muzz66]

Muzz he CANT use an EVO AWD flywheel as he wants to use a FWD gearbox. AWD flywheels dont fit inside the FWD bellhousing dude.

Fiend, you either have an EVO or RVR AWD engine by the looks of it being a 7-bolt crank. In that case just grab a flyweel of a normal stock manual transmission GLXi CC Lancer mate. If you cant find one another alternative is a FWD Mitsubishi Nimbus/Galant 4G64, or a 1995 FWD 2G Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T

Thanx for clarifying that as I said I wasnt sure if that would fit the FWD box which brings to mind if I dont know for sure prob best to say nothing looks like he has a clutch he cant use. The box I am using is out of a GSR Galant which Im not happy with.Wide ratio and tall dif

 

[FiEND]

When you do a major conversion like this you need to know exactly what you want and need before purchasing any gear.You nearly made an expensive mistake with your clutch purchase.You bought your clutch before you knew what type of flywheel you needed.Get a plan dude, it will save you money down the track.A single spinner FWD turbo will be an interesting drive. Good Luck and Happy Cruizin.

Thanks for the reply..

Actually have been doing my research and the opinions seem to be mixed, as in, some people we're saying that the 4g93 flywheel is usable on the 4G63, some we're saying it wasn't. So end of the day just had to wing it.
The clutch can be swapped for a different one anyways .

 

[FiEND]

Muzz he CANT use an EVO AWD flywheel as he wants to use a FWD gearbox. AWD flywheels dont fit inside the FWD bellhousing dude.

Fiend, you either have an EVO or RVR AWD engine by the looks of it being a 7-bolt crank. In that case just grab a flyweel of a normal stock manual transmission GLXi CC Lancer mate. If you cant find one another alternative is a FWD Mitsubishi Nimbus/Galant 4G64, or a 1995 FWD 2G Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T

Thanks for the reply .

The engine is an rvr engine, i've got the stock CC flywheel, the current issue is that the diameter of the bolt holes in the flywheel are smaller than the bolts required for the crankshaft. So it looks like i'd have to bore out the flywheel bolt holes.

My concern was that if i would start boring out the flywheel bolts i might end up with an un-ballanced flywheel, which may cause me some issues down the track. THat's why i was wondering if there's an alternative flywheel i should use.

 

[EVO-00X]

NO dont modify the flywheel at all. I asked my brother about the FWD flywheel as he had the FWD setup in his car before with EVO engine but he actually is using an evo gearbox converted to FWD. He actually suggested the GLXi flywheel but I wasnt so sure so if the diamater is slightly out then yeah sorry about that, I'll tell him to shut up next time lol

I've removed a flywheel from a FWD setup once that actually was an AWD flywheel machined flatter (the high bits around the edges taken off it). Its sorta going the wrong way about it but it can be done and has been proven to be done. Other alternative are the 4G64 FWD flywheels as mentioned above from a Nimbus or Galant, or one of a FWD 2G GST Eclipse.

 

[FiEND]

NO dont modify the flywheel at all.

Ended up having to drill the flywheel by .2 mm Studs fit in nicely and i won't have to worry about a bigger flywheel diameter. On top of which i know it'll fit nicely with the current transmission.

I asked my brother about the FWD flywheel as he had the FWD setup in his car before with EVO engine but he actually is using an evo gearbox converted to FWD.

He actually suggested the GLXi flywheel but I wasnt so sure so if the diamater is slightly out then yeah sorry about that, I'll tell him to shut up next time lol

He was kinda right about this .. just needed the drilling to suit .. So 1/2 way there .. should get him some brownie points. lol .

Other alternative are the 4G64 FWD flywheels as mentioned above from a Nimbus or Galant, or one of a FWD 2G GST Eclipse.

Negative on those, spent the whole day @ the wreckers, took 3 gearboxes off (galant 4G63 '91, galant 4g63 '93 , hyunday elantra 4g63 '93) all of them had 6 bolt flywheels. Rain didn't help ether ..

Ended up drilling the flywheel as mentioned above, and getting the flywheel machined tomorrow, a replacement clutch to suit.

 

[FiEND]

Ended up having to drill the flywheel by .2 mm Studs fit in nicely and i won't have to worry about a bigger flywheel diameter. On top of which i know it'll fit nicely with the current transmission.

He was kinda right about this .. just needed the drilling to suit .. So 1/2 way there .. should get him some brownie points. lol .

Negative on those, spent the whole day @ the wreckers, took 3 gearboxes off (galant 4G63 '91, galant 4g63 '93 , hyunday elantra 4g63 '93) all of them had 6 bolt flywheels. Rain didn't help ether ..

Ended up drilling the flywheel as mentioned above, and getting the flywheel machined tomorrow, a replacement clutch to suit.[/quote]

Hopefully no more surprises.

Also wondering if there's an lsd version of the lancer gearbox (fwd) if anybody knows of ?

Thanks again for the input etc.

 

[DOUGMO]

uf nimbus are 7 bolt 4g64

te/f magna are 7 bolt 4g64

93 on l300 4g63 and 64 are 7 bolt

late hh galant sohc engines are 7 bolt

 

[FiEND]

uf nimbus are 7 bolt 4g64

te/f magna are 7 bolt 4g64

93 on l300 4g63 and 64 are 7 bolt

late hh galant sohc engines are 7 bolt

Well where we're you yesterday !?!? lol ..

Walked past the mangnas and thought about it, but after ripping 3 gearboxes off getting drenched i wasn't up for it anymore, figured it was just one of those days.

Might go back on the w/end and take one off a magna just for the satisfaction.

Thanks for the info.

 

[EVO-00X]

Thanks for the extra car models George. I knew the 4G64 had a few FWD 7 bolt variants but didnt know the actual car models they came from except Nimbus and Galant.

 

[EVO-00X]

Thanks for the actual model list George, I told him to grab one from a Nimbus or Galant, but the Magna and L300 might be easier for him to find

 

[FiEND]

Thanks for the actual model list George, I told him to grab one from a Nimbus or Galant, but the Magna and L300 might be easier for him to find

Just a quick update for later reference if someone needs it ..
Got an L300 flywheel, crank bolts line up, however flywheel is oversize for the stock lancer fwd gearbox (FM22).

 

[CLuTZ]

I hope you removed the spigot bearing from the auto RVR crank!

I'd be sourcing a 4WD flywheel for when you put a 4WD (locked FWD) gearbox in after you smash the stocker

 

[Muzz66]

I hope you removed the spigot bearing from the auto RVR crank!

I'd be sourcing a 4WD clutch for when you put a 4WD (lockked FWD) gearbox in after you smash the stocker

He already has an Evo clutch.I reckon he should just bite the bullet and source a locked g/box now and save all the hassles later.It WILL be cheaper in the long run.