$5550 rebuild cost for 4g93t

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and y'all know where my vote will come in too :)

so happy with the 93T path, got a fresh strong 1.9L motor, the power is ridiculous and thats just with the 14b .. and i got something different to the heard :p

edit: and 93T parts are now more readily available off the shelf!

edit2: and it's far more satisfying when someone has a go at you re milk and juice and you can say it's not even that that i just ripped you with :p
 
At the end of the day, if spending that sort of money you should be seriously considering building the stronger and more R&D'd engine of the family... a 4G63T. There's good reason why 99% of people who have stepped up from a 4G93T to a 4G63T never go back (the extra torque, power and parts availability).
Also, if all you've ever known is a 4G93T and are more than happy with it, then there's no point changing :) It's personal preference. Spend a bit of time in a car with both engines and similar mods, and make your decision.
 
EVO-00X said:
seriously considering building the stronger and more R&D'd engine of the family... a 4G63T. There's good reason why 99% of people who have stepped up from a 4G93T to a 4G63T never go back (the extra torque, power and parts availability).
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rob are you on a death wish :lol:

to the 4G93t boys ur like swearing or preaching another religion:p
 
EVO-00X said:
There's good reason why 99% of people who have stepped up from a 4G93T to a 4G63T never go back (the extra torque, power and parts availability).
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I totally agree with you :) now that im starting to make more power with the evo 3 Ill never go back to a 4G93T... 4G93 is still a great motor though..
 
I agree that the 4G63 was brought out in greater numbers across more of the Mitsu range than the '93T. Therefore it's a lot easier to find oem and aftermarket parts for it.

Having said that, I don't see how people can completely devote themselves to one engine.

They're both mitsu engines and both aren't perfect.

They both have nosiy lifters, and will both do a spectacular job of bending your valves when the timing belt tensioner breaks! :(:(
 
Nothing wrong with a strong 93, they rev really well. JPC recommended that I buy a GSR and build a 93, I just happened to end up with a 63.
 
why go for a stock 63 over a built 93... unless you're going to build the fk outta the 63... even then..
 
MISGSR said:
why go for a stock 63 over a built 93...
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That is a good point Bron; I had an evo 2 front cut which I was going to dump the 4G63 in my old GSR... I didn't bother putting the motor in the GSR as i wanted an evo 3 so I sold the GSR and the front cut.... last time I heard of that motor it was put in a VAN and the first turn of the key apparently it cracked the crank... I would go for a rebuild over an old motor any day as you dont know the second hand motors history! And at least with a rebuild you know whats put in the motor and its condition etc..

Im sure so many people havent had a problem with second hand motors... It was just my pot luck I bought a dud motor

But... I would still prefer a 4G63...
 
MISGSR said:
why go for a stock 63 over a built 93... unless you're going to build the fk outta the 63... even then..
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Ive had both motors..

ur comparing a 5k motor against a 2k import motor? obv choice if money wasnt an issue would b a fordged 93t motor?

lets compare apples against apples.

forged 93T (5.5k rebuild) vs forged 63T (5.5k rebuild)...

whats your choice then.. ?

Jon
 
Dean said:
You forgot the +2k for the import motor first to forge it.
So basically its 5.5k (93t) vs 7.5k (63t)
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lol ok lets break it down.

Forged 4G93T 5.5k

Rods (argo) ~$900
Pistons wiseco ~$900
Engine labour $1200 (machinging etc..)
Motor parts (bearings etc.) $700
Reco head? $600
Lifters $250
ARP studs (head/mains) $500
TDO5H ? $900

stock parts 390cc injectors


vs

Forged 4G63T ~4k (allow 1.5k for block/head)

- Stroker kit - $2800
- Arp parts + labour

stock parts 510cc injectors/TD05H B16G

5.5k gone

Jon
 
This wasnt meant to be a 4G93T vs 4G63T bash but just a comparison of bang for buck.

Depends what your interpretation of 'a rebuild' is, but to give you an idea I recently priced up to rebuild an EVO 4G63T and you'd be amazed at what the price came to. Very cheap compared to a year + ago.

Here's a quick list for just under $3500AU to your door:

Je forged Pistons
Eagle rods
ARP2000 bolts
ACL rod bearings
ACL main bearings
ARP head studs
ARP main studs
Full gasket set rebuild kit
OEM MLS/HKS Headgasket
Brian Crower Valvesprings and Titanium Retainer kit
1mm oversize or stock size Stainless steel valves, manganeze bronze guides and 3G lifters
Engine PS, Aircon, Alt belts
Gates Racing blue timing belt
Timing belt bearing set
Balance shaft eliminator kit
Waterpump
Welsch plugs
BC Cams
New Oil pump

Add $1500 for block and crank machine work and balancing and headwork

total a little under $5000

Leaves $500 to go toward engine assembly, a new flywheel or clutch, or those extra bits you may need/want to replace like thermostat, auto tensioner, turbo rebuild kit, engine mounts etc :)

That's bang for buck right there IMO.
 
EVO-00X said:
This wasnt meant to be a 4G93T vs 4G63T bash but just a comparison of bang for buck.

Depends what your interpretation of 'a rebuild' is, but to give you an idea I recently priced up to rebuild an EVO 4G63T and you'd be amazed at what the price came to. Very cheap compared to a year + ago.

Here's a quick list for just under $3500AU to your door:

Je forged Pistons
Eagle rods
ARP2000 bolts
ACL rod bearings
ACL main bearings
ARP head studs
ARP main studs
Full gasket set rebuild kit
OEM MLS/HKS Headgasket
Brian Crower Valvesprings and Titanium Retainer kit
1mm oversize or stock size Stainless steel valves, manganeze bronze guides and 3G lifters
Engine PS, Aircon, Alt belts
Gates Racing blue timing belt
Timing belt bearing set
Balance shaft eliminator kit
Waterpump
Welsch plugs
BC Cams
New Oil pump

Add $1500 for block and crank machine work and balancing and headwork

total a little under $5000

Leaves $500 to go toward engine assembly, a new flywheel or clutch, or those extra bits you may need/want to replace like thermostat, auto tensioner, turbo rebuild kit, engine mounts etc :)

That's bang for buck right there IMO.
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Dean said:
Exactly my point! A little under 5k, but you still have to buy the block!
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LOL Dean, settle pettle mate..

FYI the aforementioned setup is a 800hp all day everyday setup... if you wanted a mild build.. i will highlight wat you can take out..

Those 3 items are atleast 1-1.5k alone.

so 5k - 1k (being a realist) is 4k yer? leaves 1.5k to buy the motor.

Jon
 
WindeX said:
Jon build me one :D

Pitty the rest of my car would fall apart with that kind of power :D
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"show me the money" ill arrange it all for ya...

But if your going to build that sort of package.. u better have another 5k for other things.

clutch
box
ecu
turbo/manifold
injectors
cooler
R&D

:)

Motorsport is an endless game!

Jon
 

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