Bans on P platers
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Entaran
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Don't care. Been off my P's for over a year now.
Frankly, if you let your P plater son/daughter buy a car with that much power as their first or subsequent car you need your head checked anyway.
Kids do stupid shit in cars, high powered cars increase exponentially the speed they do the stupid shit at and thus the risk taken.
Frankly, if you let your P plater son/daughter buy a car with that much power as their first or subsequent car you need your head checked anyway.
Kids do stupid shit in cars, high powered cars increase exponentially the speed they do the stupid shit at and thus the risk taken.
Nick_CD9A
Member
well ive had my car since i was 17. my parents didnt want me jumpin from a hyundai excel to lancer evo..so i think it was a wise choice to do what i did. but as in sayin that most kids my age will not agree, they just want a fast car but dont want to have to suffer the concequences that go with having one.
You dont care because this will not effect you :roll:
Would you be happy with not being able to buy the car you wanted even if you are a responsible driver? and only being able to drive one mate around? I think the focus should be more on driver education than restricting everthing that a liscence stands for ie.freedom not restrictions. I have to agree somewhat with the high powerd restrictions as they are only trying to save lifes, but how far will it go? i mean yes if we all do 80km on freeways there will be less accidents but is this feasible? More restrictions = less accidents but we live in a world that relies on cars and transport so maybe we should look into other things such as teaching drivers more about driving :idea:, making driving schools compulsary before sitting your test etc etc. soz for rambling on but i am in the generation that will cop all this and im not the only one who isnt happy about it
Would you be happy with not being able to buy the car you wanted even if you are a responsible driver? and only being able to drive one mate around? I think the focus should be more on driver education than restricting everthing that a liscence stands for ie.freedom not restrictions. I have to agree somewhat with the high powerd restrictions as they are only trying to save lifes, but how far will it go? i mean yes if we all do 80km on freeways there will be less accidents but is this feasible? More restrictions = less accidents but we live in a world that relies on cars and transport so maybe we should look into other things such as teaching drivers more about driving :idea:, making driving schools compulsary before sitting your test etc etc. soz for rambling on but i am in the generation that will cop all this and im not the only one who isnt happy about it
GVR40
Passion Fingers
the rules say you can't drive the car, not that you can't buy the car, most car club race days/events don't check license and scrutineering is fairly casual as well, basically you can't legally drive it on the road but you can drive it other places
Fkn P Platers in Commodores and CE Lancers piss me off :lol: . There is not one day on my way to and from work where I dont see a P-Plater in one of the beforementioned vehicles doing something stupid but the majority of the time its speeding and hooning between traffic lights with their 120db exhaust systems thinking they have 500hp under the bonnet :lol:
. There is not one day on my way to and from work where I dont see a P-Plater in one of the beforementioned vehicles doing something stupid but the majority of the time its speeding and hooning between traffic lights with their 120db exhaust systems thinking they have 500hp under the bonnet :lol:lefty
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one fucks it all for the rest, great work.
I believe that after a year of driving a non high powered car you should be able to get a faster car. 3 years is bullshit and too extreme. What about people that are old and still on their P's?
I have been comfortable in my gsr since I got it at 19. I spent a year+ driving a underpowed/cracked head gasket rb gemini before I got a gsr.
There is always going be to crashes. It just seems to me that anything with 'hotted up vechile' & 'p's' make it to the news while other crashes dont.
(EG some old person putting the car into reverse and slamming the accelerator running over a few people, which happened last year)
I believe that after a year of driving a non high powered car you should be able to get a faster car. 3 years is bullshit and too extreme. What about people that are old and still on their P's?
I have been comfortable in my gsr since I got it at 19. I spent a year+ driving a underpowed/cracked head gasket rb gemini before I got a gsr.
There is always going be to crashes. It just seems to me that anything with 'hotted up vechile' & 'p's' make it to the news while other crashes dont.
(EG some old person putting the car into reverse and slamming the accelerator running over a few people, which happened last year)
Entaran
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Wonder if sydney news reported the pair of 25-30 year old asians who got wiped out in a t-bone in the middle of the city after they failed to stop for a red light.
That car was royally fucked. I had to drive through the wreckage with a vr4 loaded on a car trailer behind me!
That car was royally fucked. I had to drive through the wreckage with a vr4 loaded on a car trailer behind me!
it has alot to do with the driver, with that said, a bad driver in a fast car = very bad
a bad driver in a slow / shit car will still be dangerous but not as bad as above...
with my family members / friends, i always advise them to drive a slow car for the first year at least....
they have to somehow restrict drivers, i know of some shocking drivers who drive high powered cars..... its like a timebomb waiting to go...
but yes, driver education is the best, but like in school, some kids dont want to learn... what can you do.....
a bad driver in a slow / shit car will still be dangerous but not as bad as above...
with my family members / friends, i always advise them to drive a slow car for the first year at least....
they have to somehow restrict drivers, i know of some shocking drivers who drive high powered cars..... its like a timebomb waiting to go...
but yes, driver education is the best, but like in school, some kids dont want to learn... what can you do.....
djcharliek
Member
EVO-00X said:
I love that quote!
Lee
Well-Known Member
I think that if the govmt is fed up with all the young drivers getting killed on the streets, then why dont they offer to have a (Or make compulery) defence driving course with getting your P's, it's all about education further more inforcing "Dont ban high performance vehicles, ban low performance drivers" :wink:
Lets face it....we ALL (And dont say you dont!) have a quick "squirt" on the road every now and then, But I never do it in a built up area with any other cars on the road OR With other people in the car, But now i'm 28 I haven't done anything "Stupid" since I was in my late teens/very early 20's, Now I get "My urge" out on a drag strip and now on a race track.
I owned a RX-7 with 430hp at the wheels when I was 20 and never done anything stupid in it on the streets, So it does have the age mature factor in it as well, Every person is going to be differant.
Lets face it....we ALL (And dont say you dont!) have a quick "squirt" on the road every now and then, But I never do it in a built up area with any other cars on the road OR With other people in the car, But now i'm 28 I haven't done anything "Stupid" since I was in my late teens/very early 20's, Now I get "My urge" out on a drag strip and now on a race track.
I owned a RX-7 with 430hp at the wheels when I was 20 and never done anything stupid in it on the streets, So it does have the age mature factor in it as well, Every person is going to be differant.
doommachine
Well-Known Member
Or make it like germany, extremely expensive to get your license. (From memory, over 2 grand). This of course includes comprehensive driving lessons, not just reverse parking, but sliding in the snow, dirt, wet, and generally being safe.
The added bonus of making a drivers license very expensive, you really appreciate it and are less likely to lose it.
The added bonus of making a drivers license very expensive, you really appreciate it and are less likely to lose it.
vsthis
Member
Unfortunatly, no amount of defensive driver training, driver education, extentions on probationary periods or bans on high powered vehicles will remove the d*ckhead factor from these people. D*ckheads will be d*ckheads no matter what you tell them or teach them. They could be the most skilled drivers at a defensive driving course but when you put these people out in the real world with other people and cars around, they revert to being the dangerous, risk taking wanker they were before the course.
Turning people into skilled drivers is easy. Changing their attitudes, actions and removing that "it won't happen to me, I'm an excellent driver" mentality is near on impossible.
If you ask me, it all comes back to the needing a licence to breed argument!
Turning people into skilled drivers is easy. Changing their attitudes, actions and removing that "it won't happen to me, I'm an excellent driver" mentality is near on impossible.
If you ask me, it all comes back to the needing a licence to breed argument!
Entaran
Well-Known Member
doommachine said:
All of the above plus 6 months of nightschool in basic mechanics, a compulsory set of defensive, advanced and super high speed driving (highways are unlimited) and a series of written exams.
That's the german license test.
contract3
Member
im on my green p's.. have 7 months left till i get my full license...
i wonder if these laws will affect me and all the youngger p platers in my town driving v8 utes etc
i wonder if these laws will affect me and all the youngger p platers in my town driving v8 utes etc
lefty
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I dont agree with having to pay $2000 just to be able to drive, sorry.
