CC AWD 4G63T conversion

[Ian91]

OK Guys, im new here and havent looked through all the forums yet

My Car: 1993 Lancer CC GLXI, 15" rims( getting 18"s), 4" cannon, pod filter, racing seats, half fitted evo3 Body kit, and stereo w/ dvd and all that shit.

will post pics when get my camera back

nothing special....yet lol

so what i want to do is a Full Evo 3 engine and drive train convo

i know it will probs end up costing more than buying an AWD GSR with a 4G63.

But i dont care and i want the experience of doing this myself.

Obviously i need, engine, gearbox, diffs, rear cradle and suspention setup and all that.

If anyone has done this before please tell me all the parts i will need, or if its actually posible 1st of all lol:blink:

Much apreiciated

Ian

 

[FLIBYUGSR]

i think you will also need the floor pan? the tunnel for the tailshaft

 

[LWNSLW]

you will need a rear cut with awd floor pan, awd fuel tank, diff, cradle and there is a lot more things that you will need along the way.

 

[evo-gsr]

Hey Ian... If you have a look in the tech section there is a sticky dedicated to this topic, which has ALL the info, tips and tricks on doing this VERY popular conversion. One thing though, due to it's popularity, a good condition 4g63t is becoming harder to find as well as getting quite dear these days!! Still if you can get hold of one it's a mod that you will enjoy for years, I've done it to my gsr and the learning experience was the best bit about it!!! You will need a floorpan for your glxi as suggested above which is probably the hardest part of the whole conversion, the rest is a piece of piss!!! Good luck....

 

[evo-gsr]

Check out 90xsi for sale thread he has the rear floorpan and a few other goodies you may be interested in....

 

[EVOCPE]

And dont forget you will need the tailshaft hanger welded on also

Here are some pics from my AWD conversion on my coupe

http://djmik-e.gallery.netspace.net.au/Conversion1

 

[evopwr]

If anyone has done this before please tell me all the parts i will need, or if its actually posible 1st of all lol

:lol: :lol:

you have obviously spent <1minute researching this!

evocoupe.net

 

[Ian91]

:lol: :lol:

you have obviously spent <1minute researching this!

evocoupe.net

Mine isnt a coupe so i didnt even think to look there, i only thought of asking after i found this site and saw how helpful you guys are to others


Thanks for the tips ill check them all out

Cheers

Ian

 

[EVO-00X]

I know you said you want the experience to do it yourself and stuff, but have you weighed up the headache and the $$?
I've seen complete GSR's sell for as little as $4000 recently... surely its much less hassle rego, engineering, $$ wise to get a GSR if you're keen on the sedan shape. If it were a wagon or a coupe to convert to AWD then I fully understand the commitment and challenge as Ive done it myself, but a sedan? I know of two rolling AWD GSR shells that recently sold for only $1000 and $2000 respectively when an AWD rear floorpan alone, fuel tank plus GSR front K-frame and parts will easily set you back $1000 minimum. Have you taken into consideration engineering? brake upgrades, new exhaust system, etc? Just trying to get you to think about it a bit more lol.. not hassling you out

 

[htgsr]

As above seems like a lot of work to do something that you can just buy for less than what the conversion will cost, in saying that ill have all the bits you need to do the engine conversion up for sale in a couple of months, and a complete GSR drive train ill throw in for free as its on its last legs but still works so it will get you going if your interested.

 

[ENGINR]

I say "Go for it".

I also say... "Research-prepare-research some more-prepare-plan-plan-plan" and then you're close to ready to doing it. When you're close to doing it there are some MAJOR things you need to consider before starting:

1. Budget: Any amount you're told or you estimate or you're quoted - triple it.
2. Time: Any duration you're told or you estimate or you're quoted - triple it.
3. Frustration: Will no boundaries

 

[JSTYLE]

I say "Go for it".

I also say... "Research-prepare-research some more-prepare-plan-plan-plan" and then you're close to ready to doing it. When you're close to doing it there are some MAJOR things you need to consider before starting:

1. Budget: Any amount you're told or you estimate or you're quoted - triple it.
2. Time: Any duration you're told or you estimate or you're quoted - triple it.
3. Frustration: Will no boundaries

Ive spent about 3hrs on mine.

Unbolted the CC FWD rear end.. and cut/measured the hole for the AWD floorpan..
The next fun part is drilling out the AWD floorpan/captive bolts

fun fun

Jon

 

[ENGINR]

Are you finally AWD'ing the Proton?

 

[JSTYLE]

Are you finally AWD'ing the Proton?

Nope, im doing a CC sedan... and im estimating about 20-30hrs of work.

Jon

 

[ENGINR]

That's a realistic time frame IMO - if you stick at it consistently then it's not too hard to knock over quickly.

 

[evopwr]

If i do an awd conversion the second time, i will definitely reduce the labor to at least half.

As Shayne (ENGINR) said, go for it. I've done it and it was an awesome experience and abit of fun too (have to be realistic right haha). But I enjoy the DIY projects. It's definitely not everyones cup of tea.

 

[Liberoz]

Drove in workshop fwd drove out AWD converted 18 days later anyone that tells you from start to finish is 20-30 hours has their hand on it

 

[Ian91]

well atleast i know it can be done, yea i will be researching alot into this and checking all over for parts and prices

not planning on it right away so ive got some time to save and think about cutting up my car lol

Thanks for replys guys

 

[CLuTZ]

Sell it, and buy a GSR- unless you will be keeping the car and giving it to your son for his 21st.

 

[JSTYLE]

Drove in workshop fwd drove out AWD converted 18 days later anyone that tells you from start to finish is 20-30 hours has their hand on it

so your saying it took 18 days of 18 x 8hrs so it took 144 hours at say a workshop charges $100 an hour so it costs $14,400 to convert it to AWD?... wow pretty expensive workshop!!! :thumbsup:

from the people who i have spoken to who have done the conversion they reckon 20-30hours should b doable for a first time, even shayne and alex agree so obviously afew people have their hand on it or this workshop your referring to is rather slow at work?...

Jon