EVO 3 info & tech.

[Lee]

Hi all, I've been looking at the forums for a while, now i just brought a "Mint" black EVO 3 that will get here in the next week or 2.
Just wanted some more info on them, like what sort of boost they run in stock form (I think it's around 10psi?), What boost the engine is good for & what psi/hp are the turbo's rated/good for?.
Do you need to up grade injectors (I think thay are a good size of 500+cc) & the fuel pump when your putting up your boost to say 15psi.
or anything else?

And any other info on the E3 would be great.

Cheers.
Lee

 

[CLuTZ]

Lee, welcome to the club! Good to see some more Townsville members!!!

Okay, first off, 10 psi is around about right, I've never owned one and they're all different. Give or take 1 or 2 psi.

The engines have been known to make 250kw atw, with stock bottom ends.

Turbos are good for around about 380hp.

If you want to raise the boost, a fuel pump, fpr and chip would be the go. Its better upgrading the fuel system, than having detonation in one of your cylinders. Injectors are yellow top 510cc's.

If there are any more questions dont hesitate to ask!

If you click on THIS LINK it'll show you some more handy specs of the CE9a Lancer EVO III

dre

 

[3zercrowd]

Hey welcome Lee and thanks for joining Team4g!

Cant wait to see it in the flesh 8)

Shame I didnt buy it Timing not right.....

Yeah so when can we catch up?

I would like to get all the Townsville members on all the forums to meet up?!

Yesterday a new Townsville member got a VR4 1/2 cut for $3000 cash!
Lucky i was along for a look otherwise he wouldnt of got it! :wink: He was told that it was a Jap spec GSR 1/2 cut or a Galant GSR 1/2 cut...took abit of convincing that it was in fact a 4G63T VR4 Cyclone engine..good old vin numbers... E39a..... :lol: Congratulations to him.......

 

[Lee]

Hey guy's.

Thanks for that Clutz, big help.
Looks like I'll get a bigger pump for it as soon as it gets here.
It should get here in the next week OR just B4 new years eve, so cant wait.
There is a pic of my EVO 3 attatched.

Hey 3zercrowd there is another tidy Stock White Evo 3 for sale & it's here in QLD & it's neg on price.

Here's a link: http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=2749558&current_rec=17&used_rec=8&total_rec=66&sort_type=&total_rec=66&sort_type=&make_id=3&model_id=1&keyword=EVO&state_id=-1&search_distance=25

 

[3zercrowd]

Hey 3zercrowd there is another tidy Stock White Evo 3 for sale & it's here in QLD & it's neg on price.

Here's a link: http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/!cs_content.private_vehicle?vehicle_id=2749558&current_rec=17&used_rec=8&total_rec=66&sort_type=&total_rec=66&sort_type=&make_id=3&model_id=1&keyword=EVO&state_id=-1&search_distance=25

Thanks Lee ive seen that one... I have plans.... :wink:
Im always on carpoint/carsales and autotrader.com 8)
That reminds me.. :idea:

I love that black car! :cry:

 

[Lee]

And here is another.

I've got a few thing to do to it the very second it gets here.

Tinted windows, Turbo timer, Full HKS SS Exhaust, bigger fuel pump, boost controller, that'll do it for now.

 

[3zercrowd]

Here are some more!
(I took them myself :lol: )

 

[v8h8a]

hey

hey and welcome,
i got a Evo 1 RS its pretty mush stockers, just had an engine rebuild, got a 3inch exhaust t/b, no boost controllers or anything.
now for some reason mine is running 16psi, ive been told by pete at TMS that they run 14psi standard..
the turbos are rated at 450hp, the driveline the same, the engines are all forged internels to start with so u need not worry about that part..
ill be back up arpund australia day, will catch up and chat if ya want..
good to c the EVO's are getting up in numbers. ill have some decent competition now..
my rides in members rides...

 

[Lee]

Re: hey

no boost controllers or anything.
now for some reason mine is running 16psi, ive been told by pete at TMS that they run 14psi standard..
the turbos are rated at 450hp, the driveline the same, the engines are all forged internels to start with so u need not worry about that part..
ill be back up arpund australia day, will catch up and chat if ya want..
good to c the EVO's are getting up in numbers. ill have some decent competition now..
my rides in members rides...

Hi mate, They run anything from 10-11psi stock not 14.
The 4G63 engine is NOT forged from factory.
The EVO 4 & newer is like a semi-forged design with the pistons, but not as strong as forged items.
Sounds good for the cruise, i also have a mate with a EVO 3 so i'll ask him to come along.
Cheers.

 

[v8h8a]

info whereabouts?

where did u get that info from?
i jus had a complete rebuild on mine, i priced all the standard internals and what they told me was that they forged to neway.
BOOST???? ive got all the info back in townsville, i been told and it stands to reason cause mine normally spikes at 1.2bar but then stays on 1.1 bar boost.
which is 14 psi isnt it...???
down here at my parents place in the mountains in NSW im hittin 1.3, 1.4 bar boost at about 5000rpm.cause i had it on the freeway the other night, air temp was about 11 degrees or cooler i was doin about 210km/ph in 5th at about 5500rpm and it was sitting on 1.3bar after spiking at 1.4bar..
i dont know why it is but as far as i know the boost has not been touched..
any info would be good as all i seem to get is.. i heard... ill meet up with u when i get up and compare notes.. did u say ur mate had an EVO 3. is it the white one with oevo3 plates..

 

[Entaran]

1 bar = 14.7 psi.

1.1 bar = 16.1 psi

1.4 bar (spike) = 20.5 psi.

You spiked to 20.5 psi of boost?

Factory ECU?

That would have boost cut.

I think your boost gauge has had it. Get a new one and check the connections

Out of interest, how do you know it was 210? Don't you have a 180kmh speedo?

 

[CLuTZ]

Removal of the factory boost solenoid can make your car run around 1bar. Also your spring on your wastegate actuator could have been replaced or its rooted, causing it to run more boost. I'm pretty sure they dont run anywhere near 14psi (.93bar) stock, its more like 10psi, give or take 1-2psi. A 3" exhaust off your turbo will help you pick up 1-2 psi.

Boost spiking often happens with larger dump pipes fitted, the factory wastegate cant flow enough causing your boost to creep. Time for a wastegate port job, or an external.

Then again like entaran said, your boost gauge may be ******, or the lines are kinked/blocked.

Do you run an B.O.V to the atmosphere?

 

[Lee]

Re: info whereabouts?

where did u get that info from?
i jus had a complete rebuild on mine, i priced all the standard internals and what they told me was that they forged to neway.
BOOST???? ive got all the info back in townsville, i been told and it stands to reason cause mine normally spikes at 1.2bar but then stays on 1.1 bar boost.
which is 14 psi isnt it...???
down here at my parents place in the mountains in NSW im hittin 1.3, 1.4 bar boost at about 5000rpm.cause i had it on the freeway the other night, air temp was about 11 degrees or cooler i was doin about 210km/ph in 5th at about 5500rpm and it was sitting on 1.3bar after spiking at 1.4bar..
i dont know why it is but as far as i know the boost has not been touched..
any info would be good as all i seem to get is.. i heard... ill meet up with u when i get up and compare notes.. did u say ur mate had an EVO 3. is it the white one with oevo3 plates..

Ok how bout you just ask around on the forums (Or any where for that matter o look it up on the net) (I will try to get some more info about this & post it up soon) about the Evo 1-3 4G63 engines to see if they are forged from factory.
Maybe the mechinac shop told you to get OR go forged items cause they are stronger And you might as well get them now that it's due for a rebuild as it would save ALOT of stuffing around down the long term.

I got that info from the guy that rally's Evo's for a living & has a number of them ranging from Evo 1-Evo 8.

Just because your car is running that amount of boost doesn't mean that they run it from factory, like CLuTZ Stated there is SOOO many factors involved with over boosting/spiking.
Have you had a look at you wastegate & vacume line to see if you can see any "T" running off the line.
Also see if you can move your wastegate with some multi-grips, the wastegate COULD be stuffed/carboned up also.
OR if you be VERY carefull run some compressed air on the wastegate to see if it moves the wastegate.

Also see if you still have the OEM Boost control soleniod is conected up OR still there.
With a full exhaust you will run a few pound more in boost so maybe 12-13psi.

Are you running the Factory ECU still?
Yes that's him with the while Evo 3 with OEV03 plates.

 

[v8h8a]

all factory

yes its the standard ECU.
dont have a BOV, only the factory wastegate,
yes my speedo reads only 180km but if u work it out of the tacho thats about what it reads.
i had it in the shop a few weeks back with an ignition problem, while it was there they looked at everything cause even the guy who drove it after they put new leads on it commented on the Boost it makes.. its got me beat.
Entaran, is boost cut and Rev limiter the same? cause i know it dont have a rev limiter.. they run off the same principle dont they.
as for the forges? im only going by what i been told..

 

[runuts]

If its a genuine EVO 3, there is no way you are doin 210k at 5500rpm in 5th. Stock EVO 3 ratios, you'd be doin about 165ishk at 5500 in 5th, not 210. Thats for sure. (Unless your box and diff have changed ratios anyways)

 

[CLuTZ]

If its a genuine EVO 3, there is no way you are doin 210k at 5500rpm in 5th. Stock EVO 3 ratios, you'd be doin about 165ishk at 5500 in 5th, not 210. Thats for sure. (Unless your box and diff have changed ratios anyways)

runuts? 165kph @ 5500rpm in 5th? They can go faster than that!

or did you mean 4th gear?

 

[runuts]

Well out of the 3 EVO 3's I've driven, one that i own.. they all seem to do about 4000rpm at 120kph in 5th, so that would be 30k/1000rpm. 5500rpm in fifth, would equate to about 165kph

 

[3zercrowd]

If its a genuine EVO 3, there is no way you are doin 210k at 5500rpm in 5th. Stock EVO 3 ratios, you'd be doin about 165ishk at 5500 in 5th, not 210. Thats for sure. (Unless your box and diff have changed ratios anyways)

runuts? 165kph @ 5500rpm in 5th? They can go faster than that!

or did you mean 4th gear?

He owns a Evo1 RS. so yeah....

My Gsr does just under 160KPH through the traps in 4th (13.72) so its a fair bet to say an evo 1,2 or 3 would be going faster than 165KPH in 5th 8)

 

[v8h8a]

ill show ya.

runuts... ill be up ur way after new years i can take u for a run if u want.. show what boost its makin and also that it does go that fast.
3zercrowd said that i own an EVO 1 RS, now the RS is the rally spec model, the gear ratios are shorter then the normal EVOs, mine goes through the traps at 13.2@105mph, thats 169km and thats finishing (7500rpms) 4th not going to 5th, if u wanna meet up one day in the gold coast area ill bee there for about a week.

 

[runuts]

Hey v8h8a... for sure. PM me when your comin up. I'll have mine back on the road this week. But off again for the engine mods in two weeks. Machine shops taking holidays, bit inconsiderate..lol. But yeah, I'll be taking it to Sydney for tuning early Feb.

Not doubting your boost, just the speed your are achieving at 5500rpm in 5th. Like I said, I have a genuine evo 3 gsr, and it does 30k per 1000rpm in 5th. So at 5500rpm it would be doing about 165.