Genuine evo conversation?

[vsthis]

To put a stop to people filling other peoples for sale threads with conversations about what exactly constitutes a genuine evo, I've started this thread that potential buyers can access and use as a reference to make up their own mind about the topic.

So the big question is

What is considered to be a genuine registered evo in australia???

sticky this if you want mods?

 

[CLuTZ]

So the big question is

What is considered to be a genuine registered evo in australia???

A car with a CD9A (EVO 1), CE9A (EVO2/3), CN9A (EVO 4), CP9A (EVO 5/6), and CT9A (EVO 7/8/9) stamped on its firewall from factory in Japan.

Pretty simple really.

 

[VR-4Squid]

or maybe E39A 002 or E38A 002 (evo0 and evo0RS respectively).

totally agree with the above tho.

swap every removable part into a gsr shell - and it's still a gsr

 

[Entaran]

More or less what is above.

A reshelled GSR, even if it's fully welded like an evo or gone further and seam welded is still a GSR at the end of the day.

 

[Richard]

More or less what is above.

A reshelled GSR, even if it's fully welded like an evo or gone further and seam welded is still a GSR at the end of the day.

It may be a GSR still, but in terms of the car itself it is an EVO except for a few numbers stamped into the firewall?

 

[trevmcrev]

More or less what is above.

A reshelled GSR, even if it's fully welded like an evo or gone further and seam welded is still a GSR at the end of the day.

It may be a GSR still, but in terms of the car itself it is an EVO except for a few numbers stamped into the firewall?

Which is about as real as a GT falcon replica. Still a good car, still worth a bit of money now, and if all you want to do is "drive" it, it's good enough and you will save alot of money. For someone who is a collector or true enthuisiast, only an original will do, and for this you have to pay the premium.

Thing about reshelled gsr's is most of thier owners think its as good as real so they decide to call it an evo. Not on really.

Would you try to sell a mocked up fairmont as a "Genuine GT" ?

If your car is genuine, say so. And back it up with the firewall stamps.
If not, never call it an evo. Its a gsr, or maybe like the ford gt case we should start calling these cars "Evo Replicas"

Trev

 

[JayRome]

i agree with all above should be classified as a "Replica EVO" with full "Genuine EVO runnings Gear"

price wise i would have no clue, but i wouldn't think they would go for the same price......

 

[evopwr]

a genuine evo is really only for the collector...

the prices that some people ask for genuine evo 3's is rediculous.... an evo 6 can be bought for that much ! :lol:

if a GSR has been ershelled and welded properly, it would be just as good, if not better than an original evo, as people would usually upgrade worn out seals / gaskets etc with newer gear.

at the end of the day, i would rather a genuine evo, but as money is usually 99% of the talk, I would happily settle with a reshelled GSR.

 

[EVO-00X]

GSR with all the EVO running gear and welded the same etc would still go exactly the same as the EVO. What sets a genuine EVO apart from the fakes is the marque, the name, the status that comes with a genuine 'EVO' that is a piece of motor racing history. So in essence, a genuine EVO can be a collector car, whereas a GSR come EVO replica cannot. Depends what the buyer wants at the end of the day, an authentic piece of history, or a car that looks and goes just as good. Do you like real tits or fake tits? as some of us wouldnt even care one way or the other as long as they look good and offer plenty of fun :lol:

 

[CLuTZ]

Do you like real tits or fake tits? as some of us wouldnt even care one way or the other as long as they look good and offer plenty of fun :lol:

Well said 8)

 

[Entaran]

Do you like real tits or fake tits? as some of us wouldnt even care one way or the other as long as they look good and offer plenty of fun :lol:

Well said 8)

Real thanks.

 

[VR-4Squid]

Do you like real tits or fake tits? as some of us wouldnt even care one way or the other as long as they look good and offer plenty of fun :lol:

Well said 8)

Real thanks.

Oh hell yes - far less issues come with real ones :wink:

 

[matress]

real ones for me too

fake = high maintenance

 

[OFFON-4]

mmmmm boobs :shock:
Where............. Ill take real or fake not fussed hahahaha

 

[tenji]

Beggars cant be choosers

 

[OFFON-4]

Beggars cant be choosers

A$$hole :lol:

I dont beg....much hahaha

 

[ENGINR]

All in all it comes down to what the buyer wants and what the buyer is prepared to pay. You would hope that somebody who wants to buy an EVO would have done their research and realised what is out there in the market place in terms of genuine and re-shell (the old 'Buyer beware' thing).

This would involve knowing everything from what VIN should be stamped on the vehicle (good point CLUTZ) to whether it was a GSR or re-welded GL/GLXi.

 

[vsthis]

I find i tell different people different things when people ask me about my car.

When talking to someone who knows the difference between a gsr, an evo and a kitted lancer, I tell them it's a gsr with an evo conversion.

To the average joe that wouldn't know the difference, i tend to tell them it's an evo. It saves the "so it's like my sister's lancer" conversation!

I wouldn't sell it as an evo though.

 

[DOUGMO]

i agree with trev,

you dont often see peolpe trying to call their cars gt falcons,brock commodores,sti's etc.. when they are only lower spec models to begin with,
only seems to happen with early evos(gsr's)

its only genuine if its genuine and original(meaning delivered from the factory as an evo). full stop.

 

[whiskey]

Which is about as real as a GT falcon replica. Still a good car, still worth a bit of money now, and if all you want to do is "drive" it, it's good enough and you will save alot of money. For someone who is a collector or true enthuisiast, only an original will do, and for this you have to pay the premium.

Thing about reshelled gsr's is most of thier owners think its as good as real so they decide to call it an evo. Not on really.

Would you try to sell a mocked up fairmont as a "Genuine GT" ?

If your car is genuine, say so. And back it up with the firewall stamps.
If not, never call it an evo. Its a gsr, or maybe like the ford gt case we should start calling these cars "Evo Replicas"

Trev

I agree with this completely. Why do people come on here and attempt to sell a reshell etc and blantantly call it genuine - when by definition it is not. They then complain when people (who know what they are talking about) make a comment about it.

People with a replica may have the opinion that it is genuine because they tried really hard to make it look genuine or it is "almost genuine" because it has 99.9% Evo parts. This opinion doesnt change the fact it is not a real one.

Call it like it is....